KVR Audio

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:23 pm

He has changed his company name to rigid audio..

obviously i am in his database as an old customer.

I told him a long time ago I wanted nothing to do with him anymore cause he was so FOS.

His new emails do NOT have any info *anywhere* on unsubscribing (which afaik is illegal), so i sent an unsubscribe message to the email address provided for contact, to no avail (sent it a few days back and already received two promo emails since then).

So i will publicly shame Dennis Lenz here.. whoever hasn't dealt with him before, please understand he takes your money, then disappears for months or years at a time, only to re emerge with some new apology and how he's back stronger than ever. Rinse, cycle, repeat.

Everything i have ever bought from him, he no longer provides any DL links for, he has products that he got people to invest in early and promised updates that never happened he conveniently "loses" his source code or backups), and so on.

Since he won't let me unsubscribe from his spam, i'm shaming him here. Another crysonic style scenario.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:54 pm

There's really more important things in life. And publicly shaming someone, calling him by name is really over over OVER exaggerated in this case. Seriously, i often wonder if you should not consider doing something else than spending so much time online, and on your own. You're showing the typical signs of someone doing so.

bungle · Post by **bungle** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:56 pm

Is this the developer that is doing the pre order on the Kontakt GUI maker ?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:58 pm

TheoM wrote:please understand he takes your money, then disappears for months or years at a time, only to re emerge with some new apology and how he's back stronger than ever. Rinse, cycle, repeat.

That is not true, he could sue you for such allegations, based on old hearsay.

I have bought many Rigid Audio libs, and they have always been delivered to me in minutes after ordering

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:59 pm

I was a plugins for life customer with Prodyon. It was all Synth Edit stuff, and later Kontakt Library's. I got way more than my money's worth from Dennis, and consider him a decent bloke. I've had no spam from Rigid Audio, but since I changed my email address this year, I get no unsolicited mail ...

Good luck to him I say
http://www.sampleism.com/rigidaudio

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:07 pm

The few emails I got, all have mailchimp options in the bottom that allow unsub (I suppose, didn't bother testing).

spirit · Post by **spirit** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:05 pm

I've been spammed by Rigid Audio as well. I was wondering which audio company sold my email address, but this explains it. Also no unsubscribe which is definitely illegal here. I've added to the spam senders, so no big deal. But anyone who does email marketing must realize about unsubscribes by now. Those who don't are immediately suspect for bad business practices imo.

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:49 pm

I'm just a bit wary about his pricing tactics. But then again he's not the only one. I do believe he strives to bring us interesting libraries.

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:23 pm

bftucker · Post by **bftucker** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:25 pm

The only RA Mail I get has a large clearly marked "unsubscribe here" button? I have a different email account for these kinds of things, so it doesn't bother me much.

woggle · Post by **woggle** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:34 pm

I have had both rigid audio and prodyon clone emails recently and they do not have unsubscribe on them I am happy enough to think it is a simple mistake rather than something "sinister"

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:34 pm

Numanoid wrote:
TheoM wrote:please understand he takes your money, then disappears for months or years at a time, only to re emerge with some new apology and how he's back stronger than ever. Rinse, cycle, repeat.
That is not true, he could sue you for such allegations, based on old hearsay.

I have bought many Rigid Audio libs, and they have always been delivered to me in minutes after ordering

I think Theo is right here.

Personally I have nothing against the guy and I did get bunch of stuff at the Prodyne end-of-life sale. It was good 15$ spent. But at that time the guy said that he is done for good with music software only to come back under a new name half a year later. And I guess he's done it before, as I remember a lot of complaining about it at that time.

Fortunately I haven't got any spam from him at all (yet).

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:32 pm

Numanoid wrote:
TheoM wrote:please understand he takes your money, then disappears for months or years at a time, only to re emerge with some new apology and how he's back stronger than ever. Rinse, cycle, repeat.
That is not true, he could sue you for such allegations, based on old hearsay.

I have bought many Rigid Audio libs, and they have always been delivered to me in minutes after ordering

LMAO @numanoid.

This is just becoming comedy now, the way you follow me around to quote me about everything and tell me how wrong I am. I have been pointing it out to you for 2 years now and you always deny it, but already in the last couple of days you prove it moe than ever.

he can try sue me all he likes. I will in return sue for all the things i bought, some of which i never got links for, some of which were unfinished.

Or he can simply put an unsubscribe button in his emails, or take me off the list when i SEND him an email asking me to unsubscribe,

I was not one of the $15 spenders but a hello of a lot more, got screwed plenty, and never bothered about it.. But now he has the gaul to email me and not remove me when i ask him to. Anyway back to mute, i'd rather just let you follow me around and type whatever you want, and not give you the satisfaction of reading it. Just like CHK above, i already *know* since he's on my mute list, that he would have typed something to actually slander me or "correct my behaviour" in some way. I am willing to bet on it. But of course, i won't give him the satisfaction of ever reading what he has to say, ever.

cocoazenith · Post by **cocoazenith** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:37 pm

Former Prodyon customer here. I received this e-mail in april 2015 from VSTBuzz:

"WELCOME PRODYON CUSTOMERS

Hi there! You're receiving this email because you previously purchased a product from the music software company called Prodyon.

In January, Prodyon have ceased trading and we purchased the rights to their sample libraries. As a Prodyon customer, we have imported your orders so you can continue to keep access to your old products for free on our website:

Access your Prodyon download links here: https://vstbuzz.com/my-account/ (you will need to reset your password to login the first time)

---

Also, we'd like to apologise...

In the process of importing your details and orders, our system automatically asked you to confirm being signed up to our mailing list, which is not nice. We're very sorry about this - we hate nothing more than being added to companies mailing lists when we never asked.

We take privacy very seriously - you shouldn't be added to the newsletter unless you clicked the confirm button in the email, but if you clicked it accidentally, just click the button below to unsubscribe right away:

Once again, we're very sorry about this and it was not our intention to do this. We only wanted to ensure that people were able to retain their download links for old Prodyon products before the company shuts down their website.

If you have any questions at all, just email us at prodyon@vstbuzz.com and we'll get right back to you.

The VSTBuzz Team"

So i guess you have to contact them about what i think is an error and not
something made on purpose.

Here is the link i had in that email
for unsubscribing:

http://vstbuzz.us5.list-manage1.com/uns ... 142650f7c9

Agree with people earlier in the post. Public shaming without concrete evidence is wrong and hasty.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:38 pm

I see *this time* he is founded in 2015

the fact that he hasn't come back with his original company name says everything. No one will buy from him under prodyon.

There are so many topics here saying much worse than this topic I started, fact, about people being screwed over, so if anyone wants to do the real research for themselves they can.

I think this is the 4th or 5th "resurrection" of his.. and those who spent $15 , sure, you got your money's worth. I can guarantee you if you ever lose the files you will never be able to get them again though, but for $15, it's an acceptable risk. i wouldn't give him 15 cents, so why he wants to email me i have no idea.

anyone else being spammed by prodyon (now rigid audio) on a weekly/sometimes daily basis?