donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

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donkey tugger
Boss Lovin' DR
5605 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:13 pm

I went away, and then I came back, having discovered that if you don't go to the boozer every night you can make some more music...

I do like to mess about with genres and seeing what what can be done. Whilst I've previously done faux 'Motown' style things I've never properly attempted a 70s soul influenced song. Until now.
I reckon the music has come out quite well. Vocally; welllllll..Marty bastard Pellow springs to mind. Smothered it in loads of plug-in genreated harmonies and multi-tracking, but Marty's still there...

Spent quite a bit of time trying to get the mix right on this. Is it? Who knows? Lost all perspective now.

EDIT - new version;

http://www.bennyleeds7.myfreeola.uk/don ... altsnr.mp3

Techie shite;
Won't list it all. loads of the plug-ins, just the 'stars of the show' so to speak.

Main instruments;

Drumdrups 'badge' kit - bloody marvellous
Amplesound free bass thing - ditto
CM Rob Papen 'muted' - wacka, wacka, wacka!
Satantank - strings and some guitar
That organ VST by the Mr Ray people.
Some other guitar soundfonts (I could have played the bloody stuff quicker!)
Effects;

Free CM harmonizer by Melda
Free CM harmonizer called 'veikling' or something
Lots and lots of kompressors..

Thank you and good night!
Last edited by donkey tugger on Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

AnX
KVRAF
4380 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:23 pm

Snare is too fwd in the mix, and too snappy/sharp. Personally i'd use something grittier, poss even a jath snare.

dark water
KVRian
1085 posts since 2 Jun, 2016

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:25 pm

Sounds very nice Mr Tugger.
Great arrangement, nice singing (believe it or not!), and excellent instrumentation.

My only criticism is that the snare drum doesn't feel quite right to me in this mix - a bit too 'thin' compared to the rest of the mix for my liking. That might just be because of its comparatively upfront sound compared to the other kit elements though.

Anyway, very pleasant song and a welcome change to have a bit of soul here.

Cheers.

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donkey tugger
Boss Lovin' DR
5605 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:28 pm

Cheers both, a bit of a concensus there then!

I did originally use the Ludwig 400 snare from the same set of samples, but got seduced by the big 'Acrolite' one which I believe was used on a lot of Al Green recordings.

A bit knackered now, but will have a go with the other one, set back a bit in the mix on the morrow and re-post.

dark water
KVRian
1085 posts since 2 Jun, 2016

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:35 pm

^^ cool.

In passing, I'm mightily impressed that on the KVR main webpage there is a cock and balls currently dancing around the New Music subheading (that sixth one with the orange arrow).
I realize that simple KVR technology involving your user ID pic may have something to do with this, but still...

It certainly stands out from the other (few) avatar logos.

Life-affirming stuff.

As is the song.

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bluedad
something special
8454 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:18 pm

ha, years since a new dt tune, so I don't give a f**k, love this.

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donkey tugger
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5605 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:47 pm

dark water wrote:^^ cool.

In passing, I'm mightily impressed that on the KVR main webpage there is a cock and balls currently dancing around the New Music subheading (that sixth one with the orange arrow).
I realize that simple KVR technology involving your user ID pic may have something to do with this, but still...

It certainly stands out from the other (few) avatar logos.
Hahaha, excellent!

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donkey tugger
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5605 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:50 pm

bluedad wrote:ha, years since a new dt tune, so I don't give a f**k, love this.
They're like buses, you wait for ages then a load come at once...if you click on the new link in my signature I've put a load of new stuff on a google sites page. Usual variable styles and quality...!

Must now sleep...

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Aloysius
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23452 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from the Land of Soy

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:07 pm

WOW! Best song I've ever heard at KvR. :tu:
Broccoli is murder.

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topaz
KVRAF
4395 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:13 pm

Bloody marvellous, Leeds finest right there :-)

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skipscada
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1431 posts since 22 Oct, 2004 from Schmocation

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:38 am

donkey tugger wrote:Vocally; welllllll..Marty bastard Pellow springs to mind. Smothered it in loads of plug-in genreated harmonies and multi-tracking, but Marty's still there...
Can't hear it. Plenty of Mark Hollis, though. Would write a longer comment, but it's difficult to write while holding both thumbs up.

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donkey tugger
Boss Lovin' DR
5605 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:28 pm

Thanks chaps, very kind!

I did a new version and the original snare does seem to sit more nicely, and a more 'retro' sound too, always a bonus. Bastard ISP went down (and my phone stopped working too - catastrophic simultaneous technical meltdown) but the winternet is working again now so I've uploaded it;

http://www.bennyleeds7.myfreeola.uk/don ... altsnr.mp3

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Frantz
KVRAF
5026 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:15 pm

Nice tune. The music is excellent and sounds very professional.

I think the vocals would be clearer with less processing. I think the harmonizers are making them muddy.

Good job! :tu:

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justin3am
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10703 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:53 pm

I totally got a George Michael vibe from the intro but then it opened up into something else completely. I really enjoyed this. Nice composition and instrumentation. I may have made some different choices in the mix but I can hear everything clearly. Probably works better than any of my attempts to mix stuff like this. I loved the bass parts and the strings at the end.

Thanks for sharing!

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Googly Smythe
KVRAF
2361 posts since 12 May, 2011 from Not where I was just now.

Re: donkeyt - pop/soul/indie song - Until The Morning

Post Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:35 pm

Hmm, except for the "funky" 70s guitar, I get a Moody Blues vibe from this track. It's the mellotron strings that does it, I think. I can hear Justin Hayward singing this.
Good job (especially since I love The Moody Blues!).
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