Ableton + Drumagog + CC#4
- KVRAF
- 44252 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Hi,
Quick question.
Drumagog Platinum v5.21 is getting triggered from a Live HiHat (HH) Track.
My Drumagog file has articulations for closed, half open to fully open.
Drumagog is able to follow the Live HiHat articulations no problem.
I can output the MIDI generated inside Drumagog to another MIDI Track. This includes Note Number and Foot Controller (CC#4) MIDI information.
After tidying up the generated MIDI, I'd like to send all of this information to Drumagog via MIDI in.
I can get the note information to trigger Drumagog (like a normal VSTi) but am having no luck getting Drumagog to react to the MIDI Foot Controller information, which should be controlling the HH articulation from Closed to Open HH at times determined by MIDI CC#4 values.
Any ideas on how I can get Drumagog to respond to the Foot Controller MIDI information?
Update 01: If I configure the ''ART.'' slider (Articulation) in Live and copy the previously generated CC#4 Information to Drumagog Articulation Envelope, I'm able to get something working. Though when the HH Opens, it continues until it's played out, rather that being choked by the next Closed or Half Closed/Open HiHat.
Quick question.
Drumagog Platinum v5.21 is getting triggered from a Live HiHat (HH) Track.
My Drumagog file has articulations for closed, half open to fully open.
Drumagog is able to follow the Live HiHat articulations no problem.
I can output the MIDI generated inside Drumagog to another MIDI Track. This includes Note Number and Foot Controller (CC#4) MIDI information.
After tidying up the generated MIDI, I'd like to send all of this information to Drumagog via MIDI in.
I can get the note information to trigger Drumagog (like a normal VSTi) but am having no luck getting Drumagog to react to the MIDI Foot Controller information, which should be controlling the HH articulation from Closed to Open HH at times determined by MIDI CC#4 values.
Any ideas on how I can get Drumagog to respond to the Foot Controller MIDI information?
Update 01: If I configure the ''ART.'' slider (Articulation) in Live and copy the previously generated CC#4 Information to Drumagog Articulation Envelope, I'm able to get something working. Though when the HH Opens, it continues until it's played out, rather that being choked by the next Closed or Half Closed/Open HiHat.
Last edited by Aloysius on Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 25 Nov, 2013 from France
Hi, I've a questions for you, can you tell me if the live replacement of the hihat is working well? what kind of mic do you use for that? and did you try drumagog to follow the cymbals to? Thank you.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 44252 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
When I said ''Live HiHat (HH) Track'' I meant a wav file from a sample pack. It also works very well with cymbal stems. 
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 44252 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Yes. Check out YouTube. It even works with cardboard kits. 
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 44252 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
I'll close this Thread now.
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Crap.So I was able to duplicate and confirm what you are seeing in Drumagog 5 and generated MIDI.
I talked to the developer about Drumagog 5 not reading the CC#4 on MIDI input and he said that Drumagog 5 was never designed to read back the controls channels with MIDI input. So unfortunately this won't work and there is no bug. You will have to automate the HH articulations back in.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
