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Cruba · Post by **Cruba** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:10 pm

Hi all!

My 8th song for my album was planned to have something special and it worked...

Question: Do you know what time signature this song uses?

https://soundcloud.com/cajhmere/chronic ... -1/s-VVt3C

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:49 pm

the most periodic segment I found seemed to be in 10/4. I wouldn't say 5/4 as the phrase exceeded that. if there is a single t.s. for the whole thing, I don't know.

be · Post by be » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:57 pm

Actually, it´s 4/4, isn´t it...

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:06 pm

simple 4/4.

Cruba · Post by **Cruba** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:08 pm

jancivil, good first shot, but it isn't. don't give up!

be, Lotuzia: definately not...

Tip: Ther's no change, whole thing has same time signature. I'm not that mean... lol

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:13 pm

Cruba wrote:jancivil, good first shot, but it isn't. don't give up!

be, Lotuzia: definately not...

Tip: Ther's no change, whole thing has same time signature. I'm not that mean... lol

The drumbeat would be noted 4/4, and played alike, by any drummer though.

Cruba · Post by **Cruba** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:20 pm

Drummer myself and it's not 4/4...

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:30 pm

Cruba wrote:Drummer myself and it's not 4/4...

Hmm, you picked my curiosity.

so maybe a kind of clunky 4/4 where a 16th triplet has been added, or removed, every x bars ? I say a 16th triplet or smaller time interval because I think I would have noticed it if it was a time equal or greater than a 16th note.

be · Post by be » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:46 pm

It sure can be heard/understood as 4/4 throughout. Whatever other time siganture may be put on or counted unto it, it is ultimately a simple even beat.

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:30 pm

I don't know the proper "notation" way to say this, but I'm pretty sure it's something close to 4/4, but either with a 32nd note lopped off of each bar, or where each set of 32nd notes only has 31 notes (or 'ticks') but spread over the same space as a 4/4 bar (like the same concept as trip- or quintuplets but taken up to a finer grain).

There are a lot of weird "almost 4/4" time structures that to the ear simply sound like "4/4 with a bit of groove". To be honest it sounds like straight 4/4, drums, melody, bassline, right until the phaser chords come in, which sounds like a x0x0x0xx0x0x0xx0 rhythm but not quite. This is what leads me to believe it's almost 4/4 but "off" by a division of less than a 16th note - either by subtraction or division.

Without a hihat or other "groove filling" percussive sound with a nice timely attack, it's hard to say

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:37 am

Those could be mistakes.

I didn't get to where there's any drums. That's completely different.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:52 am

afaic, the bit with the drums is in 4.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:24 am

I counted out 8 through the whole thing and "1" always came where I thought it would. So if not 4/4, it is something similar (e.g. 2/4, 4/8, 8/8) from an analytical standpoint.

The time signature indicated in your software doesn't necessarily mean that your music is going to fall into it. I tend not to change time signatures in my DAW, even when my music does, because it can create annoyances later on, and I am used to working across the bar lines, rather than within them. The only time I worry about time signatures any more is when I am creating notation in Lilypond.

Googly Smythe · Post by **Googly Smythe** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:39 am

Time to tell us the answer, before we get bored...

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:13 am

herodotus wrote:I counted out 8 through the whole thing and "1" always came where I thought it would. So if not 4/4, it is something similar (e.g. 2/4, 4/8, 8/8) from an analytical standpoint.

The time signature indicated in your software doesn't necessarily mean that your music is going to fall into it. I tend not to change time signatures in my DAW, even when my music does, because it can create annoyances later on, and I am used to working across the bar lines, rather than within them. The only time I worry about time signatures any more is when I am creating notation in Lilypond.

Exactly! And It really doesn't matter what it is, if everyone just perceives it as straight

I also don't bother marking out the time signatures on the track, except for one block to give a correct click to record to

Riddle: What time signature is this song preview based on?