Maybe we will see Serum for Reason then one day? Will also make life much more easy for other deves to port their stuff, with the new hideable panel and widget stuff, if i got it right.
I don't think so too. Why would PH establish their own format, and earn on it, just to switch to VST, turn their back on their whole concept, and enter a market they're unarmed to enter? You wouldn't be able to handle VST's like the included, or RE devices anyway.EvilDragon wrote:It's never gonna happen.
They would have to make agreements about that with many developers first. Way too much work/costs I suppose. Developers have to do the extra work too to output/recode their Vst's to RE format.nIGhT-SoN wrote:What I hate about Reason's Rack Extensions is that if you already bough some plugins as VST you don't get them for Reason and vice versa which is a total bummer for me. Would be nice if you bought from Reason's Shop D16 Group Decimort, for example, to get the VST and other formats too. That's where Propellerheads lose mostly, most people aren't ok with buying again plugins they already have to be able to use with Reason.
nIGhT-SoN wrote:What I hate about Reason's Rack Extensions is that if you already bough some plugins as VST you don't get them for Reason and vice versa which is a total bummer for me. Would be nice if you bought from Reason's Shop D16 Group Decimort, for example, to get the VST and other formats too. That's where Propellerheads lose mostly, most people aren't ok with buying again plugins they already have to be able to use with Reason.
This is somewhat inaccurate. Some devs do crossgrades for the ported VST-to-RE. Rob Papen is one. There's some others but I can't recall off hand. The bottom line is: this is up to the dev and has nothing to do with Reason or Propellerhead.Nielzie wrote:They would have to make agreements about that with many developers first. Way too much work/costs I suppose. Developers have to do the extra work too to output/recode their Vst's to RE format.nIGhT-SoN wrote:What I hate about Reason's Rack Extensions is that if you already bough some plugins as VST you don't get them for Reason and vice versa which is a total bummer for me. Would be nice if you bought from Reason's Shop D16 Group Decimort, for example, to get the VST and other formats too. That's where Propellerheads lose mostly, most people aren't ok with buying again plugins they already have to be able to use with Reason.
What is inaccurate about what I said?EnochLight wrote:This is somewhat inaccurate. Some devs do crossgrades for the ported VST-to-RE. Rob Papen is one. There's some others but I can't recall off hand. The bottom line is: this is up to the dev and has nothing to do with Reason or Propellerhead.Nielzie wrote:They would have to make agreements about that with many developers first. Way too much work/costs I suppose. Developers have to do the extra work too to output/recode their Vst's to RE format.nIGhT-SoN wrote:What I hate about Reason's Rack Extensions is that if you already bough some plugins as VST you don't get them for Reason and vice versa which is a total bummer for me. Would be nice if you bought from Reason's Shop D16 Group Decimort, for example, to get the VST and other formats too. That's where Propellerheads lose mostly, most people aren't ok with buying again plugins they already have to be able to use with Reason.
Nielzie wrote:What is inaccurate about what I said?
There's no indication to suggest it's way too much work/cost, nor a requirement to have agreements with many devs. Again, some devs do it. Rob Papen feels it's worth it, anyway. I'm just talking about crossgrades. Clearly there's work and cost involved in porting!Nielzie wrote:They would have to make agreements about that with many developers first. Way too much work/costs I suppose.
One of the examples of the improved UI, I am still not blown by the visuals:eXode wrote:and improved UI to the Rack Extensions toolkit.
I wasn't blaming anyone. I was just saying this problem affects Propellerhead's sales and also for Rack Extensions developers. I know it would be a little more complicated to port from Rack Extension to VST, but I'm mostly interested the other way around for developers that already have a VST version for a plugin that's released on Propellerhead's shop.EnochLight wrote:This is somewhat inaccurate. Some devs do crossgrades for the ported VST-to-RE. Rob Papen is one. There's some others but I can't recall off hand. The bottom line is: this is up to the dev and has nothing to do with Reason or Propellerhead.
Is that really true though? As far as i know, PH get a share of the sold RE's, right? How would a dev account for a crossgrade, or a free version VST-to-RE? I only know it the other way around, e.g. Synapse offer The Legend free as VST, when you bought it as a RE.EnochLight wrote:This is somewhat inaccurate. Some devs do crossgrades for the ported VST-to-RE. Rob Papen is one. There's some others but I can't recall off hand. The bottom line is: this is up to the dev and has nothing to do with Reason or Propellerhead.Nielzie wrote:They would have to make agreements about that with many developers first. Way too much work/costs I suppose. Developers have to do the extra work too to output/recode their Vst's to RE format.nIGhT-SoN wrote:What I hate about Reason's Rack Extensions is that if you already bough some plugins as VST you don't get them for Reason and vice versa which is a total bummer for me. Would be nice if you bought from Reason's Shop D16 Group Decimort, for example, to get the VST and other formats too. That's where Propellerheads lose mostly, most people aren't ok with buying again plugins they already have to be able to use with Reason.
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