is Chromaphone 2 one of its kind? best for bells and other creative plucks?

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KVRAF
6503 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:35 am

i always read Chrompahone 2 and it's on sale now, GAS! i guess, i like the stuff i hear so far, not the newest sound engine i guess but creating bells and weird bells and combining with other cymballike sounds i guess you can make some awesome drones out of it too fueling it into Adaptiverb? :P etc.
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KVRAF
1838 posts since 15 Nov, 2003 from London, UK

Post Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:16 am

I had it for a short while and ultimately sold it on because I didn't find a use for it (I'm a monkey-level hobbyist who doesn't finish tracks) but what I will say is this - in terms of emulating physical instruments like drums, bells and almost anything else I've never seen or heard anything that can remotely touch it.

The other thing is this - from a sound design perspective it's also amazingly powerful. Just listen to some of the demos of the pads, atmospheres and otherworldly sounds that come with the factory presets and some of the expansions. If you're prepared to put the work in then it's capable of sounds that you just won't get from other plugins.

To be honest, even though I sold it, I'm tempted to buy some of the expansion packs to use with the free "player" version because it just sounds so lovely and unusual.

Try the demo! Is it one of a kind - absolutely.

KVRist
455 posts since 16 May, 2012 from Antwerp

Post Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:23 am

Chromaphone can do soundscapes also. It is worth every cent

Just follow the link below and try the soundbanks playlist.

You also have a nice set of tutorials there also.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AASphysica ... /playlists
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Beware the Quoth
29932 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Post Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:04 am

The other thing that can do what it does, obviously, is Tassman, which is modular, but that'll require building your own instruments.

Ogun is the only other synth I can think of in the 'metallic percussion modelling' arena.
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6503 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:11 am

thanks for your replies! i only could play with it in the demo mode about 20 mins or so, i really like it but it seems it is kinda limited?
no waveforms like sine, saw etc.? so you could make different bell sounds combined with their (what are these harps etc?) samples?

if so i might skip it after my hype first, cause then i could have more possibilities with a wavetable synth.
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KVRAF
32802 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:31 am

It can make a much wider variety of sounds than just bells and percussion, I actually prefer it for string and plucked sounds to String Studio, the strings I have got from it are much denser, more well defined and more realistic sounding.

KVRian
588 posts since 8 May, 2006

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:43 am

Caine123 wrote:... it seems it is kinda limited?
no waveforms like sine, saw etc.?
lol, what?! i think you're missing the point. completely.

yowza. :o

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KVRAF
5864 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:43 am

There's also Modelonia, but for me that tends more toward somewhat weird squonks and really isn't as strong on mallet/percussion sounds.

And there's Kaivo, but I never could wrap my head around it.


In Eurorack, I believe Elements and Rings far surpass Chromaphone for strings and mallets, and even more so for feeding weird stuff to the resonators, including feedback. Chromaphone does have some different models (membrane etc.) that those don't quite model. But Eurorack is definitely a whole different ball of wax. (There's also the upcoming Intellijel Plonk, which was developed along with AAS and is based on Chromaphone code... but for some reason they chose not to have an exciter-only output or a resonator input, which reduces much of the potential advantage of putting Chromaphone in a module in the first place.)

KVRAF
5449 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:47 am

Chromaphone is superb and one of a kind. Even Tassman can not replicate some of the sounds that Chromaphone can do. For example, the membrane module sounds extremely authentic in Chromaphone. It can make very believable 'skin' type percussion sounds, whereas in Tassman it always sounds as if the membrane is too 'woody', like a log.

If you want similar percussive sounds (and not just bells) Xoxos' Bong is another brilliant option (PC only).
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KVRAF
32802 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:36 am

Caine123 wrote:thanks for your replies! i only could play with it in the demo mode about 20 mins or so, i really like it but it seems it is kinda limited?
no waveforms like sine, saw etc.? so you could make different bell sounds combined with their (what are these harps etc?) samples?
It's neither a subtractive synth or sample based - it's based on physical modelling.

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KVRAF
25857 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:38 am

Chromaphone sounds great in demo vids.

The patches is ships with are great, and many expanions are available.

But I think those who gets the most out of it is those that has skills and patience to tweak it further than just using it as a patch player.

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KVRAF
25857 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:40 am

jbuonacc wrote:
Caine123 wrote:... it seems it is kinda limited?
no waveforms like sine, saw etc.?
lol, what?! i think you're missing the point. completely.
+1 if needing a more conventional VA synth, look to VA-2 instead

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6503 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:34 am

i dont understand the ADSHR control, i set it WAY up in Attack and it still hits like it's set to 0,01.... but i set it to 10s, what am i overseeing?

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KVRAF
25857 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:37 am

Caine123 wrote:i dont understand the ADSHR control, i set it WAY up in Attack and it still hits like it's set to 0,01.... but i set it to 10s, what am i overseeing?
There is a green light at LFO, Mallet, Resonator A and B

Could that mean that they are turned on, and not off ?

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KVRAF
15667 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:40 am

Caine123 wrote:i dont understand the ADSHR control, i set it WAY up in Attack and it still hits like it's set to 0,01.... but i set it to 10s, what am i overseeing?

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ADSR only effects the noise generator via the ENV modulator, it's made for creating sustained sounds which excite the resonators in addition to the short noise burst (Mallet) that is used by default. So you are mixing the short noise burst with the ADSR controlled envelope (if you have the sustained noise switched on), that's why you hear a percussive sound even when increasing the attack time. Please do read the manual.

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