Which daw has a similar pattern recording like Opcode Studio Vision

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I remember in Studio Vision you could type in the arrangement window pre written pattern sections like A,C,D,B,A,A, and make a song out of it. Are there any daws out there that have a similar approach like this?

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i have never used studio vision, but i think cubase can do it with the arranger track, and reaper with the sws extention.ableton and fl could do it in a live situation too.

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Project 5 and Orion, but both are discontinued. :(

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Band-in-a-box has always worked this way:

http://www.pgmusic.com

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Digital Performer can with its 'chunks' feature.

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I was a big Studio Vision user. I'd say that Ableton is the most comparable. You can perform launching of individual clips or whole rows, and have all of that recorded into the arrangement as you go. Others have copied that functionality, such as Bitwig and Sonar.
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It's amazing how few DAW's work in pattern mode. They all mostly rely on the sequencer track to write as well as to replay. As already mentioned, Orion is/was pattern based.

You got a bunch of stranded Orion users on the Synapse Forum (myself included) all debating about where to go next as there's nothing out there really that works in the same way.

I really hope a new Dev (or even an old one for that matter) comes along and fills the gap soon.

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Haven't used Studio Vision, but Renoise has the typing part covered. :wink: You can type in notes associated with prewritten instrument/sample/midi patterns/clips and it will trigger them in your preferred order/sequence. Not exactly what you're after, but I thought I'd offer that tidbit anyhow.

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It was before my time, but I have heard SO many good things about Studio Vision. Imagine what it would be like now if they didn't discontinue it. I think the developers should make a come back with it. Its all about re-issues these days.

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Tux wrote:It's amazing how few DAW's work in pattern mode. They all mostly rely on the sequencer track to write as well as to replay. As already mentioned, Orion is/was pattern based.
Perhaps that's because pattern based sequencing is an outdated and limited concept that stems back from a time when sequencers included no audio-stream at all but were instead only controlling MIDI devices?

Any piece of music actually is - from its first second to its very last - one continuous "thing" (for lack of a better word) - to artificially split it into individual discrete sections is an unnatural and mechanic (as opposed to "organic") approach to music - and when you listen to the music of the 80's it often shows.

(I worked with first Steinberg 24 and then Emagic Notator for years, so I am quite familiar with pattern based sequencing)

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jens wrote:
Any piece of music actually is - from its first second to its very last - one continuous "thing" (for lack of a better word) - to artificially split it into individual discrete sections is an unnatural and mechanic (as opposed to "organic") approach to music - and when you listen to the music of the 80's it often shows.

(I worked with first Steinberg 24 and then Emagic Notator for years, so I am quite familiar with pattern based sequencing)
It depends on what genre of music you're talking about. I produce House & Techno and have done since 1989. Dance music for the most part is made up of repeating patterns. Granted, if you're a guitarist or live band you're not going to require pattern based sequencing.

But on the flip side I don't want to write House & Techno in one continuous flow. It's horses for courses. There are still some old school dance music producers out here but the *majority* of modern DAW's are aimed mainly at live bands. You only have to watch their promo videos to see that.

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jens wrote:
Tux wrote:It's amazing how few DAW's work in pattern mode. They all mostly rely on the sequencer track to write as well as to replay. As already mentioned, Orion is/was pattern based.
Perhaps that's because pattern based sequencing is an outdated and limited concept that stems back from a time when sequencers included no audio-stream at all but were instead only controlling MIDI devices?
and yet Ableton Live is enormously popular with its Session View.

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