KVR Audio

nanoset · Post by **nanoset** » Thu May 04, 2017 12:48 am

Hi

My old machine runs with XP and I need audio interface with phantom power for it.
Can somebody suggest me models that still works with XP?

piotrix · Post by **piotrix** » Fri May 05, 2017 2:13 am

There must be a many. What comes to my mind and perhaps is best price/performance is Behringer U-PHORIA UMC204HD .also officially supported by Win XP.
Hats off for Behringer for being technically very reasonable.

Theoretically BTW about 99% of the new USB interfaces should work with Windows XP as the DAC and ADAC chips that are inside are supported by XP. That a end manufacturer like Focusrite etc. is NOT officially releasing the XP drivers for newer products is different story. And from the economic point of view it can be understood. As they want to cut support for older OS.

So with some interfaces when there is no official support for XP to make it work in XP a seasoned programmer may be required.

PS
I am very surprised that nobody but me answered this question. Acctually When I saw the was no answer to such a seemingly simple question. It forced me to log in kvraudio first time in the last decade!
Cheers

metamorphosis · Post by **metamorphosis** » Fri May 05, 2017 2:52 am

piotrix wrote: Theoretically BTW about 99% of the new USB interfaces should work with Windows XP as the DAC and ADAC chips that are inside are supported by XP.

That's not how it works. You have to have XP-compatible drivers, and that's all. Even though the DAC/ADAC chips might be the same, the interface circuitry will be different.

Don't know about USB, but with a TI-firewire chipset, MOTU 896HD's are a good buy, and should be cheap now.

lobanov · Post by **lobanov** » Fri May 05, 2017 3:51 am

E-MU Tracker Pre (http://www.creative.com/emu/products/pr ... ?pid=17511) or other E-MU interface (E-MU 0204, 0202).
Very good. Good quality. Stable drivers. You can buy one. But they have been discontinued.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri May 05, 2017 4:01 am

I used to use Line6 TonePort UX1. It worked perfectly with XP. Maybe you can pick one up cheap.

Windows Vista and Windows XP (with SP2 only)

TonePort UX1 is no longer made. It's a Legacy Product.

http://line6.com/legacy/toneportux1/

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri May 05, 2017 4:09 am

I use a Roland Quad-Capture with Windows 7. Apparently it also works with Windows XP. I really like it.

QUAD-CAPTURE USB Driver Ver. 1.5.2 for Windows 8/8.1/7/Vista/XP

http://www.roland.com/us/products/quad- ... fications/

Best sound-card I've ever owned.

nanoset · Post by **nanoset** » Sat May 06, 2017 5:55 pm

Thanks so much all, looks like theres good range of XP models still out there

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat May 06, 2017 5:59 pm

I used a NI AK1 with XP. Still using it with Win 8.1 with the updated drivers.

dangayle · Post by **dangayle** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:57 pm

As a software developer and someone concerned for security, I'm telling you to either install Linux on that box or dump it in the waste bin. None of the major browsers are available in up to date versions on XP, so you're liable to get PWND if you go online, which of course you'll have to do to get your DAW sand plugins installed and registered.

Your question should be, what USB interface for Linux, if it's a matter of money. If not, you're better off with a new computer and almost literally any old USB interface.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:01 pm

dangayle wrote:As a software developer and someone concerned for security, I'm telling you to either install Linux on that box or dump it in the waste bin. None of the major browsers are available in up to date versions on XP, so you're liable to get PWND if you go online, which of course you'll have to do to get your DAW sand plugins installed and registered.

Your question should be, what USB interface for Linux, if it's a matter of money. If not, you're better off with a new computer and almost literally any old USB interface.

Exaggerating much?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:18 pm

Zexila wrote:
dangayle wrote:As a software developer and someone concerned for security, I'm telling you to either install Linux on that box or dump it in the waste bin. None of the major browsers are available in up to date versions on XP, so you're liable to get PWND if you go online, which of course you'll have to do to get your DAW sand plugins installed and registered.

Your question should be, what USB interface for Linux, if it's a matter of money. If not, you're better off with a new computer and almost literally any old USB interface.
Exaggerating much?

Absolutely. Guess the press did a good job to make people think something which doesn't get updates for a few months, or a year is totally insecure by default. You got to think outside the box though. The amount of people using XP will become less and less. As a hacker, would you be keen on attacking less and less people, or more and more? As mentioned, apart from the myth that the OS immediately becomes less secure, when it's end of the line.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:28 pm

nanoset wrote:Hi

My old machine runs with XP and I need audio interface with phantom power for it.
Can somebody suggest me models that still works with XP?

I have an old Digidesign Mbox that still works with XP. And you have Pro Tools LE 8 with it as a bonus. Mbox 2 also works with XP.

Omnivox · Post by **Omnivox** » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:48 pm

I use Steinberg UR22 on an old IBM R60 laptop with Windows XP for live performances, not a single glitch in 3 years (OK, I don't perform much but still

). As far as I am concerned, this unit is highly reccomended.

dangayle · Post by **dangayle** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:37 am

chk071 wrote:
Zexila wrote:
Exaggerating much?
Absolutely. Guess the press did a good job to make people think something which doesn't get updates for a few months, or a year is totally insecure by default. You got to think outside the box though. The amount of people using XP will become less and less. As a hacker, would you be keen on attacking less and less people, or more and more? As mentioned, apart from the myth that the OS immediately becomes less secure, when it's end of the line.

I'm not exaggerating. And it's not that I believe that XP is insecure by default because of the lack of updates. It's because XP is insecure IN FACT. There have been multiple vulnerabilities that have come out since XP was retired that were never fixed. The browsers that fix security vulnerabilities that have popped up since 2015? Not fixed.

As to the hacker argument, given that XP is mostly only in use by hospitals and governments (not theoretical, Google Britains NHS fiasco), and the fact that new vulnerabilities have a strong chance of being in older OSes (because no one writes a new OS from scratch), hackers and malware authors love XP. No new patches mean any new vuln could be a playground for them.

If you insist on using XP, never make any "secure" transactions online (because they likely aren't), never open any email attachments (because they're not getting caught by your AV), and stay away from browsing the internet for anything non-essential. Better still, turn off or unplug from your network unless necessary.

Also, not that this matters, I happen to work for the press. I'm one of the people responsible in our newsroom to protect our people from security vulnerabilities, which includes actual Russian and Chinese hackers.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:04 pm

dangayle wrote: I'm not exaggerating. And it's not that I believe that XP is insecure by default because of the lack of updates. It's because XP is insecure IN FACT. There have been multiple vulnerabilities that have come out since XP was retired that were never fixed. The browsers that fix security vulnerabilities that have popped up since 2015? Not fixed.

As to the hacker argument, given that XP is mostly only in use by hospitals and governments (not theoretical, Google Britains NHS fiasco), and the fact that new vulnerabilities have a strong chance of being in older OSes (because no one writes a new OS from scratch), hackers and malware authors love XP. No new patches mean any new vuln could be a playground for them.

If you insist on using XP, never make any "secure" transactions online (because they likely aren't), never open any email attachments (because they're not getting caught by your AV), and stay away from browsing the internet for anything non-essential. Better still, turn off or unplug from your network unless necessary.

Also, not that this matters, I happen to work for the press. I'm one of the people responsible in our newsroom to protect our people from security vulnerabilities, which includes actual Russian and Chinese hackers.

https://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/

Well this is audio site and let assume he is using his machine for audio mostly (that's all that matters to us here really), so in that regard going on some developers site or KVR will not get him PWND, that's the part you exaggerated in your first response.

He can always boot up Linux for his networking, but there's no real danger for his audio duties on XP.

USB interface for XP