VSampler3.5 Key Switching

[MelvinPoindexter]

Greetings,
I've been trying to find information on how set Key Switches in VSampler3 for years, but
there seems to be no information on the web about the subject. I figured that it wasn't
supported....until yesterday, when I downloaded a monolithic VS3 bank called
E-Base Collection. The last instrument in the bank was labeled Key Switches, and when
I selected it, C0-F0 keys were highlighted in pink. Sure enough, pressing these keys switches
changes the type of bass that is being played at any given time.

But I've examined VS3's options all over the program and can't find anything to indicate
where these switch keys are being assigned. I know it has something to do with Zone groups
but no idea how a group is assigned to a key.

If anyone with expertise in VS3 could give me a clue (or just show me outright )
it would be greatly appreciated.

[kbaccki]

Wow... memory lane... isn't there a mod matrix page?

[MelvinPoindexter]

I don't see a Mod Matrix page. The only pages I see I know of are VS, Import, Sample, MIDI,
Mixer, Pattern, and Bank.

[MRT]

I found this note that I copied from an old forum post. Hope this helps.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:20 pm reply with quote

OK here are two little tutorials for Switch key and for Round Robin

Switchkey

I start from the point where you already have each of your samples organised in one zone pro sample with the appropriate key ans so on.

Say you have 10 samples violin_pp, 10 samples violin_mf and 10 samples violin_ff
The aim is to organise the zones so that when you press the switch key C0 only the violin_pp zones will be played,
pressing D0 only the -mf zones will be played
pressing E0 only the _ff zones will be played

1. You have to organise your zones in 3 groups.
for this rightclick in the zone page and choose "manage selection groups"
select all the _pp zones in the left window, put them in the right window
select "New" and give this group the name "violin_pp"

do the same for the _mf zones
and also for the _ff zones
Now you have 3 Zones-groups that you can choose from the zone page

2. Now you have to assign each zone a keyswitch
Choose the zone group "violin_pp"
Rightclick in the zonepage
choose "extended zone setting"
in the "zone conditions / Play Zone if" choose "switch key" and set the value to 24 in both field (that is C0)
close the window

repeat this for the two other zones with value 25 (for D0) and 26 (for E0)

3 finished!
VSampler will per default set the switchkey to the first one.
But when you press the other keys it will work

Round Robin

You have to create cycle groups.
This for you have to create at least two zones (each with a different sample) that overlap

It is important to name the zone in a way that you can recognise them quickly among all the other zones.
Rightclick in the zone page
choose "Manage Cycle Groups"
On the left side choose a cycle group
All the available zones should appear in the second window
put the overlapping zones you want from the second window to the third window
set mode: Round robin

Repeat this for every cycle group
finished

I hope this helps

Best regards
teacue

[MelvinPoindexter]

MRT,

You are Godsend. 5 years ago or so, I spent months trying to find that information.
Never found that post though. Gave up trying and started using Sforzando. But editing
SFZ files with a text editor was rather tedious.

I Must have been using the wrong search criteria. Thank you very much!!

[teacue]

I found this note that I copied from an old forum post. Hope this helps.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:20 pm reply with quote ...
teacue

@MRT
Just stumbled over this thread as I am always curious about VSampler threads today.
Thanks MRT that you did not forget to quote the signature

I can't really remember when I did wrote this
But indeed I used VSampler a lot at this time!
I still use it sometimes today too when I have to open old songs.
It was such a great sampler with so much features!

I am glad it is still somehow working today.
And I am glad my old post could help

Best regards

[MRT]

MelvinP: Glad to have been able to help.

teacue: nice to see your still out and about. I don't think I ever thanked you for posting that VSampler info at the time.

It's a shame that VSampler development stopped, it was as they say "a great bit of kit".

[AKJ]

ha, I think I created that soundbank Long, Long agao. But anyway, MRT gave you the solution already! Yes, a pity that development stopped quite some time ago. It was a good tool, but since scripting was introduced in V2, Kontakt was so much more powerful ...

One VSampler feature I still miss: Ogg compression!

cheers, akj

[kbaccki]

Even with kontakt scripting, VS workflow was superior to kontakt, halion, and gigastudio workflows... IN MY OPINION...