KVR Audio

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:28 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:This thread continues. Why?

Because none of us wants to miss when solomute starts spilling the secrets of the universe. At least we might get to discover just which secret stereoiser will not ruin our sound

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:44 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWdiOud20Es

Rameses · Post by **Rameses** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:16 pm

I think this question has already been answered but for completion purposes:

There is no "best sounding DAW", there only is a DAW with the best efficiency.

stillshaded · Post by **stillshaded** » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:44 pm

Come on guys.. Cubase sounds the best.

Think about It...

Kkkyyyoooobaaseee

It just rolls off the tongue.

solomute · Post by **solomute** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:10 am

I am glad that my opinion is followed because the problems really exist. Daws don't sound the same because of different resampling, dithering and other algos such as analog emulation (mixbus harrison). By the way many samplitude's plugins like efx_delay, efx_reverb have tape mode which emulates tape and by the way it is very crappy - you get awful distortion at high volume. Some other inner modules also emulate hw. If you take motu's everb it also emulates some hw. So you just can't have the same sound. Even if you take any two equalizers working totally digitally without any hw emulation the results will be different with the same q, hz, amp because they have different db\octave possibilities. Most have 6db\oct, some 12db\oct, rarely 24db\oct while higher db\ocv is just unique. The value of eq is determined by that db\octave feature. The more the better. The best one is rs-met engineer's filter with 420 db\oct though it may put even a powerful pc to knees but you will never forget the result you get. It works amazingly cleanly cutting out the frequencies you don't need. With 6db\oct and 12db\oct which are standard for daws you can't achieve that to have a very pure mix - there always be some dirt with low volume remaining. I wonder why no one sponsors that rs-met guy. That engineer's filter is only 32-bit and has no substitues in the world... So it's just not possible to get the same result from two any different daws even you want it.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:44 am

@solomute

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:55 am

The best sounding DAW is the one that you get the most work achieved with...

We spend too much time talking about the tools here on KVR,when our focus should be on the musical architecture and the performance...

Debates over hammers and spanners are pointless if the music is crap !

Making a good song and a good performance sound great is a hell of a lot easier than wasting time trying to polish a turd

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:29 am

New thread ideas:

What is the best sounding LFO?
What is the best sounding ADSR?
What is the best sounding oscillator?
What is the best sounding filter slope?
What is the best sounding stereo width?

Other suggestions welcome....

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:25 am

Michael L wrote:New thread ideas:

What is the best sounding LFO?
What is the best sounding ADSR?
What is the best sounding oscillator?
What is the best sounding filter slope?
What is the best sounding stereo width?

Other suggestions welcome....

What is the best sounding single cycle waveform ?

What is the best sounding air guitar performance ?

What is the best sounding fader on a virtual console ?

What is the best sounding microphone clip ?

What is the best sounding vocal booth fart ?

And so it goes on and on

Sparky77 · Post by **Sparky77** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:18 am

stillshaded wrote:Come on guys.. Cubase sounds the best.

Think about It...

Kkkyyyoooobaaseee

It just rolls off the tongue.

Abbbsooolutlyyyy....

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:04 pm

solomute wrote:The best one is rs-met engineer's filter with 420 db\oct though it may put even a powerful pc to knees but you will never forget the result you get.

If you would know the slightest about Digital signal processing, You would not claim, that rs-mets filter would do 420 dB/oct. rs-met himself claims 120...

It would not put your pc to knees, because it is using a IIR filter (I bet you have no idea what that means, kind of the opposite of a zero-delay filter). I would never expect such a filter to sound good, way too much ripple, but good for experimenting and learning how filters behave... You will never forget how terrible filters can sound...

Btw. I think Ardour sounds much better than Cubase. Aardooooor, in german that is the pronounciation for a-major...

garryknight · Post by **garryknight** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:50 pm

Mastering engineer Ian Shepherd discusses which DAW sounds best with John Tidey of Reaper Blog.

http://themasteringshow.com/episode-47/

Wavetone · Post by **Wavetone** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:26 pm

My midi keyboard sounds the best along with my Electric toothbrush, no daw comes Close.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:31 pm

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:This thread continues. Why?
Because none of us wants to miss when solomute starts spilling the secrets of the universe. At least we might get to discover just which secret stereoiser will not ruin our sound

just use samplitude. to have studio sound. this is the only way.

dSz'e · Post by **dSz'e** » Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:31 am

the beSt from then .. pRo tooLs , Nuendo, Samplitude.
noW FL12, pRo tooLs, cubAse, miXcraft 8
***I had the same feeling that the DAW didn't matter, but as sound engines get updated by developers the same holds true ((sample rate, and hardware))

What is the best sounding DAW??