KVR Audio

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:19 pm

I posted it in the instruments forum but it looks like an iOS first/only(?) app, so it fits better here maybe:

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:26 pm

More info: http://wolfgangpalm.com/iinfinite.html

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:45 pm

Wow...

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:47 pm

Wow indeed!

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:09 pm

I am a fan of Wolfgang, but the written description of the synth is more amazing than the demo sounds so far....

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:48 am

I think it sounds excellent... very intriguing range of timbres! For sure some new stuff there with noise.

Insta-buy for me if/when they do a Mac version.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:46 am

Yes it looks and sounds very interesting. I'll get the iPad version to test it but may get the desktop one too (got Generator but didn't get the desktop version of Mapper as I read it's still buggy but the iPad version works fine for me anyway)

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:56 am

Yes, me too. I am not sure I quite understand what it does yet though!

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:59 am

lnikj wrote:Yes, me too. I am not sure I quite understand what it does yet though!

For example, what exactly am I looking at here:

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:18 am

Michael L wrote:I am a fan of Wolfgang, but the written description of the synth is more amazing than the demo sounds so far....

Yeah, that was pretty terrible. I know wavetables are his "thing," but it would be cool if he released a synth that didn't sound like a speak & spell losing control of its bowels. Branch out, man.

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:04 am

Either I don't get how this works or someone left something out of this description:

PPG wrote:At the end of the 70s Wolfgang Palm developed wavetable synthesis. This was very successful and used by many synthesizer companies in the 80s and 90s. But this technology has its limitations. The main reason is that all sounds are harmonic. In nature this does not happen very often. Many sounds like a piano string have small offsets from the harmonic frequencies. This is even stronger in sounds like bells or percussion.

Infinite overcomes this limitation. The frequencies of the overtones created by Infinite can be totally freely defined. So the sounds it produces are totally free in the frequencies of their overtones. This means that each partial wave can have an arbitrary frequency. Moreover it is possible to move these overtones independently during the duration of a note.

Aside from the first sentence, it seems to be talking about additive synthesis not wavetable. Not having harmonic partials for additive makes sense to me, though it could be a real PITA to program. I suspect what actually happens is that it's a bit like Tritik's Moodal: the partials start off harmonic but you can apply curves to warp them away from pure harmonics. That might explain the resonator-like sound I've been hearing in the demos.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:13 am

masterhiggins wrote:
Michael L wrote:I am a fan of Wolfgang, but the written description of the synth is more amazing than the demo sounds so far....
Yeah, that was pretty terrible. I know wavetables are his "thing," but it would be cool if he released a synth that didn't sound like a speak & spell losing control of its bowels. Branch out, man.

Not listened to this demo but his other synths all sound wonderful (personally I think Wavegenerator has the best sound quality out of all the wavetable plugins and I have most of them).

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:17 am

Gamma-UT wrote:Either I don't get how this works or someone left something out of this description:

PPG wrote:At the end of the 70s Wolfgang Palm developed wavetable synthesis. This was very successful and used by many synthesizer companies in the 80s and 90s. But this technology has its limitations. The main reason is that all sounds are harmonic. In nature this does not happen very often. Many sounds like a piano string have small offsets from the harmonic frequencies. This is even stronger in sounds like bells or percussion.

Infinite overcomes this limitation. The frequencies of the overtones created by Infinite can be totally freely defined. So the sounds it produces are totally free in the frequencies of their overtones. This means that each partial wave can have an arbitrary frequency. Moreover it is possible to move these overtones independently during the duration of a note.
Aside from the first sentence, it seems to be talking about additive synthesis not wavetable. Not having harmonic partials for additive makes sense to me, though it could be a real PITA to program. I suspect what actually happens is that it's a bit like Tritik's Moodal: the partials start off harmonic but you can apply curves to warp them away from pure harmonics. That might explain the resonator-like sound I've been hearing in the demos.

Well that would fit because the first demo that came out sounded like Kaleidoscope.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:59 pm

For me it sounds very interesting since i like those sounds.
But i will wait for the mac version which i can try then (hopefully).
Later this year could mean some months away.
The thing is just with those iOS apps they cost just 1/10 of the same desktop synth then.....so why should i pay so much more.....feels wrong in my head

It will be AUv3 as well, so running several instances works too and this even could fit better for multi-touch use with the XY pads and voice per channel virtual keyboard.
There are now several little videos on you-tube from Wolfgang and it def. has that PPG character but i also find those morphs sounds very smooth. If there is one thing i hate it is steppy modulations and morphing/blending.
But of course i could really just judge it if i can take my hands on it.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:05 pm

lnikj wrote:
lnikj wrote:Yes, me too. I am not sure I quite understand what it does yet though!
For example, what exactly am I looking at here:

Lol, now we know why there is an image on the facebook site with chimps watching to a monolith.
We are the chimps waiting for the evolution of synth

PPG Infinite (by Wolfgang palm)