Lost my love of music
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- KVRist
- 136 posts since 31 Mar, 2002 from Scotland
That says it all...I haven't turned on Cubase for a month or listened to anything musical...where has ig gone, how do i get it back?
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- addled muppet weed
- 111288 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
good advice so he said it twice 
its true tho either that or dig ou something you havent heard in years and see how that feels
also try just forgetting about it
read some books take walks go to the pictures
enjoy life without music for a bit,it will come back soon i assure you
ive heard a few of your tracks,enough to know that its in you
its true tho either that or dig ou something you havent heard in years and see how that feels
also try just forgetting about it
read some books take walks go to the pictures
enjoy life without music for a bit,it will come back soon i assure you
ive heard a few of your tracks,enough to know that its in you
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- KVRAF
- 1927 posts since 30 Oct, 2003 from Frolicking in Dirac's Ocean
Hey Dan Island,
I can sympathize. Sometimes, something deep inside needs to take a break for whatever reason. Y'know, sometimes the Muse just has to hibernate (or go to the Azores or whatever). I know how sucky it feels but these days, I cut myself some slack during those periods and when I find myself drawn back its with new ears and sensibilities.
Sometimes, I'll make myself sit and still try to work music or refine previous mixes or experiment. The music that comes out feels like horse droppings and is dispiriting but I force myself to work...sometimes, I just abandon ship. But I know the music is still there waiting to percolate. Good luck and don't despair.
I can sympathize. Sometimes, something deep inside needs to take a break for whatever reason. Y'know, sometimes the Muse just has to hibernate (or go to the Azores or whatever). I know how sucky it feels but these days, I cut myself some slack during those periods and when I find myself drawn back its with new ears and sensibilities.
Sometimes, I'll make myself sit and still try to work music or refine previous mixes or experiment. The music that comes out feels like horse droppings and is dispiriting but I force myself to work...sometimes, I just abandon ship. But I know the music is still there waiting to percolate. Good luck and don't despair.
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
probably as lame as it seems, but here are my two cents:
fall in love with a musician lady - the best stimulation ever, i tell you
fall in love with a musician lady - the best stimulation ever, i tell you
Last edited by Wopelka on Tue Jul 06, 2004 5:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- 61 posts since 26 Apr, 2004
1) I think you need to listen to inspiring music. Don't know your taste but I generally listen to music from Toto, new and old. I'm a keyboard player by trade and really enjoy listing to good musicians other than keyboards musicians like Simon Phillips on drums. Generally speaking I get bored with vocal songs all the time. I need to break it up at times with some instrumental music from Jeff beck or Chick Corea, or even ELP.
2) Another approach that inspires me is to download a shit load of synth demos from various companies and listen to the sounds. There always seems to be that one sound that makes me want to expand into a song.
3) Another approach is to join up with someone musical like yourself and see if together you can inspire each other to write.
If those points above doesn't work, then you definitely need a break from Music.
Hope your inspirations revive. Good luck.
2) Another approach that inspires me is to download a shit load of synth demos from various companies and listen to the sounds. There always seems to be that one sound that makes me want to expand into a song.
3) Another approach is to join up with someone musical like yourself and see if together you can inspire each other to write.
If those points above doesn't work, then you definitely need a break from Music.
Hope your inspirations revive. Good luck.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
I can attest to the pleasures of a musician lady, but failing that, Dan, what did you love about music before?Wopelka wrote:fall in love with a musician lady - the better stimulation ever, i tell you
And is it that you just don't feel like writing music, or you don't want to listen to it either? For either, why not? You're bored with it or are you hyper-critical of your efforts/tatstes and just feeling discouraged?
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- KVRist
- 233 posts since 21 Nov, 2003 from Australia
It's so true! Guess it depends what sort of person you are though.Jaybez wrote:Try listening to some really shit music, I always find that inspires me to do a better job.
I draw cartoons and write as well, on the other hand.
What i find really kills my inspiration is when i'm getting frustrated learning something new, like.. i dunno.. alternative guitar tuning.. and i get this terrible anxiety that i'm completely overshadowed by everyone else who's gone before. Then i forget all that and just go have fun with what i know, or deliberately stupid out without having any prior idea of what i'm doing and just jam stuff. But pressuring yourself in some way can really suck your will to create dry.
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
If you play then spend time with your real instrument. I find playing guitar for a good hur or two is inspiring when I lose my creative direction in my software studio.
Good Luck,
Gordon
Good Luck,
Gordon
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
Hmmm, not sure what Mr. Island's thoughts are, but I got the impression he's talking more than just a creative dry spell. No love for music seems bigger to me than lack of inspiration.
My brother went through this, he used to write and listen to music all the time and then just sort of stopped. He found the process of recording/mixing music far too tedious to be creatively satisfying and seems to have just become disinterested in listening to music. He might disagree with me, but I don't think he's ever really gotten it back, not for the past five years or so. But for him, he just didn't feel like he had much need for music anymore. Still some periodic dabbling now and then, but nothing major. He has other creative outlets, and lots otherwise to keep him busy. And he decided long ago that a performing musician's life wasn't his cup of tea.
I think if anyone gets to that place, you really have to want to get your love back and push yourself to find the joy in it. It probably needs some introspection, find out what drew you to music. If that motivation/interest is gone, was there anything else that you got from it. Perhaps the joy is conflicted with career ambitions. Sometimes, I think some people are just better off giving it up if it doesn't do them any good anymore.
Cheers,
Steve
My brother went through this, he used to write and listen to music all the time and then just sort of stopped. He found the process of recording/mixing music far too tedious to be creatively satisfying and seems to have just become disinterested in listening to music. He might disagree with me, but I don't think he's ever really gotten it back, not for the past five years or so. But for him, he just didn't feel like he had much need for music anymore. Still some periodic dabbling now and then, but nothing major. He has other creative outlets, and lots otherwise to keep him busy. And he decided long ago that a performing musician's life wasn't his cup of tea.
I think if anyone gets to that place, you really have to want to get your love back and push yourself to find the joy in it. It probably needs some introspection, find out what drew you to music. If that motivation/interest is gone, was there anything else that you got from it. Perhaps the joy is conflicted with career ambitions. Sometimes, I think some people are just better off giving it up if it doesn't do them any good anymore.
Cheers,
Steve
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- KVRAF
- 2313 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
Well losing the will to create is one thing - you either get it back or you don't and is a very personal thing, but not listening to other's music seems more alarming cos most people react to music whether they are musical or not.
Maybe try blowing a load of cash on some CDs of stuff you know nothing about and that way you can combine musical discovery with retail therapy.
Another thing i do when i'm not feeling creative is to force myself to do all those boring 'house-keeping' chores like backing up files etc. Also, making presets for your favourite synth is good as you get to learn that instrument better, create a whole bunch of new sounds which are readily available when you do want to make some music and you waste a whole bunch of time to boot (better than wasting it on the internet).
As others have said, maybe read books, see films, go to the theatre etc, but then use those experiences in your music.
Hope you get better soon,
Mr A
Maybe try blowing a load of cash on some CDs of stuff you know nothing about and that way you can combine musical discovery with retail therapy.
Another thing i do when i'm not feeling creative is to force myself to do all those boring 'house-keeping' chores like backing up files etc. Also, making presets for your favourite synth is good as you get to learn that instrument better, create a whole bunch of new sounds which are readily available when you do want to make some music and you waste a whole bunch of time to boot (better than wasting it on the internet).
As others have said, maybe read books, see films, go to the theatre etc, but then use those experiences in your music.
Hope you get better soon,
Mr A
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- KVRAF
- 8074 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Go see some live performances -- something with lots of energy -- doesn't even necessarily have to be a concert, but a comedy show or any sort of thing. If it is music, a college jazz band or one of your better bar bands that does 80's covers will do, as long as they get into it.
Or join a drum circle. Hitting things can be very therapeutic
Or join a drum circle. Hitting things can be very therapeutic
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
music like life is in cycles,it's just in a dormant phase for you now. There are some good suggestions on how to bring it back. However the most important thing is not to let it bring you down. It will be back...Dan Island wrote:That says it all...I haven't turned on Cubase for a month or listened to anything musical...where has ig gone, how do i get it back?
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRian
- 1005 posts since 1 Apr, 2002 from Spain
I know we´re all very different, so I can´t say that what I´m going to write will help you in any way.
I find myself where you are now when I´m in one of the valleys of my life. Not necessarily feeling sad about things, but without a strong will to fight because there are too many loose ends; lovelife, social life, money, job etc.
It distracts me so much, that I really find it hard to make music, and the results of my attempts of doing so will be of a weaker quality than if I really feel in the mood for it.
These things also sometimes make me not too interested in listening, but then I normally find some songs I haven´t heard for ages and used to like but never got too bored of, and realize that a part of me likes music, and always will. That part is just a bit more sensitive at that time, because the time isn´t right for exploring new things in life.
But be careful of course to not choose something that reminds you too much of something sad, a time that´ll never come back, whatever.
Try also having a bootle of booze with you when you listen to this music. It makes you enjoy it alot more - well, at least for me:)
Anyway, while you´re having this period, don´t forget to pay attention to the ideas that goes through your mind now and then, little pieces of verses and such that you don´t force to come there. Don´t ignore them, but run your sequencer and store them for later usage.
Then one day there´ll be more stability in your life, and you´ll have more of that inner peace and balance that makes it easier to concentrate on making music.
A good place to (re)start then, is finding a reason for writing something. A person you wanna dedicate a song to. It doesnt have to be a chick, just someone from your family, or a friend who´ll have his birthday - in a not too near future, cause you need time.
You don´t have to force yourself to try n make a completely new song that you´ll pretend to yourself is inspired by knowing that person - afterall I think that happends seldomly to composers.
No, find the little pieces on your harddrive, and get those that fits best to the person. You´ll sometimes find out what a genious you´ve been, and suddenly discover the qualities of your ideas while you were not minded on music.
Then at this point, try to maintain your song writing as long as you can without forcing yourself. Normally you´ll be enjoying bigtime making music again, so get started with some projects you can keep working on.
And btw, be careful never to push yourself to try to be original all the time. Alot of shitmusic has come out that way the last 10 years.
You´ll find out that you can make a really nice little simple song sound original if you want to, and that it´ll sound so much more as if it came from your heart, rather than chords made to be disharmonic on purpose, melodies made so that they cannot be remembered, and whatever people try to do to be considered original.
Just be yourself, and even if your friends say it sounds like hell, you´ll prolly find someone later in life who thinks the opposite
Anyway, this was all based on how things can be when I have a musical crisis.
There are people who write better music when they are in deep trouble and without money, like Beethoven, so we´re all so different. And afterall, maybe none of all this have anything to do with you, and the reason for your problems is something astrological, who knows)
But anyway, I wish all the best for you and that your creativity and passion for music in general come back to you in a not too distant future. I know what it feels like, but fortunately it doesn´t make me nervous anymore, cause I´ve tried it several times, and I know I´ll always get back to my piano again.
I find myself where you are now when I´m in one of the valleys of my life. Not necessarily feeling sad about things, but without a strong will to fight because there are too many loose ends; lovelife, social life, money, job etc.
It distracts me so much, that I really find it hard to make music, and the results of my attempts of doing so will be of a weaker quality than if I really feel in the mood for it.
These things also sometimes make me not too interested in listening, but then I normally find some songs I haven´t heard for ages and used to like but never got too bored of, and realize that a part of me likes music, and always will. That part is just a bit more sensitive at that time, because the time isn´t right for exploring new things in life.
But be careful of course to not choose something that reminds you too much of something sad, a time that´ll never come back, whatever.
Try also having a bootle of booze with you when you listen to this music. It makes you enjoy it alot more - well, at least for me:)
Anyway, while you´re having this period, don´t forget to pay attention to the ideas that goes through your mind now and then, little pieces of verses and such that you don´t force to come there. Don´t ignore them, but run your sequencer and store them for later usage.
Then one day there´ll be more stability in your life, and you´ll have more of that inner peace and balance that makes it easier to concentrate on making music.
A good place to (re)start then, is finding a reason for writing something. A person you wanna dedicate a song to. It doesnt have to be a chick, just someone from your family, or a friend who´ll have his birthday - in a not too near future, cause you need time.
You don´t have to force yourself to try n make a completely new song that you´ll pretend to yourself is inspired by knowing that person - afterall I think that happends seldomly to composers.
No, find the little pieces on your harddrive, and get those that fits best to the person. You´ll sometimes find out what a genious you´ve been, and suddenly discover the qualities of your ideas while you were not minded on music.
Then at this point, try to maintain your song writing as long as you can without forcing yourself. Normally you´ll be enjoying bigtime making music again, so get started with some projects you can keep working on.
And btw, be careful never to push yourself to try to be original all the time. Alot of shitmusic has come out that way the last 10 years.
You´ll find out that you can make a really nice little simple song sound original if you want to, and that it´ll sound so much more as if it came from your heart, rather than chords made to be disharmonic on purpose, melodies made so that they cannot be remembered, and whatever people try to do to be considered original.
Just be yourself, and even if your friends say it sounds like hell, you´ll prolly find someone later in life who thinks the opposite
Anyway, this was all based on how things can be when I have a musical crisis.
There are people who write better music when they are in deep trouble and without money, like Beethoven, so we´re all so different. And afterall, maybe none of all this have anything to do with you, and the reason for your problems is something astrological, who knows
)But anyway, I wish all the best for you and that your creativity and passion for music in general come back to you in a not too distant future. I know what it feels like, but fortunately it doesn´t make me nervous anymore, cause I´ve tried it several times, and I know I´ll always get back to my piano again.
Best Regards
Roman Empire
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