Valhalla Shimmer vs XenoVerb

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Hay.

I used Valhalla Shimmer on some pads. Seems nice. I also used XenoVerb's shimmer mode on some pads. Seems nice. Is it just me, or is XenoVerb really nice for it's price, because it also includes different reverb types other then shimmer algorithm.

Best regards.

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I haven't directly compared the two but I've no reason to think that Valhalla is the best/only choice for this kind of reverb. Xenoverb certainly seems like a good deal.

Definitely check out Toneboosters Reverb 4 too, if you like Shimmer algorithms. Has a really nice rich but clean sound.

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Xenoverb is killer for the price. The Shimmer algorithm on there definitely produces some excellent results (while not being as deep as the Valhalla plugin), but the other algorithms on there are really nice too.

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Does Xenoverb do a blackhole-like reverb and a strymon pedal verb? how does it compare?

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tehlord wrote:Xenoverb is killer for the price. The Shimmer algorithm on there definitely produces some excellent results (while not being as deep as the Valhalla plugin), but the other algorithms on there are really nice too.
I experienced that too. Xenoverb is suitable for many cases but Valhalla adds the special touch of deepness I'm looking for. Same for Toneboosters Reverb. I use it a lot but I often find myself loading Valhalla for leading sounds where the reverb really matters.

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Xenoverb sound quality is seriously better IMO than Valhalla Shimmer (I have both). Valhalla Shimmer needs an upgrade. It tends to sound like a noisy mess with the longer decays. For me the density is missing. Xenoverb stays most of the time reasonable dense and convincing.

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melodyz wrote:Does Xenoverb do a blackhole-like reverb and a strymon pedal verb? how does it compare?
If you're looking for a spacey sort of reverb, Xenoverb seems to be more than capable. Watch the video when he gets to the Glass mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc3SEQbuGcg

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The great thing about Strymon shimmers (bigSky and blueSky) are the 'Octave Up + 5th Up' settings... they do seriously cool harmonies on pad swells and arps, not to mention guitar. You can change the way it modulates too (input/regen), so the octave feeds into the 5th in a loop, ie: series/parallel.

Can the Xeno do that kinda stuff?

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it's quite probable that it can, I don't own any Strymon (unfortunately... yet!!!!) but among the controls in the shimmer algorithm in XenoVerb there are 2 pitch knobs that shift in semitones.

It really must be the best value for money reverb plugin available.
Room, Hall, 2 Plates, Springy, Glass, Flow, Shimmer, Bode, Formant
and every algo sounds great :)

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Sam-U wrote:
tehlord wrote:Xenoverb is killer for the price. The Shimmer algorithm on there definitely produces some excellent results (while not being as deep as the Valhalla plugin), but the other algorithms on there are really nice too.
I experienced that too. Xenoverb is suitable for many cases but Valhalla adds the special touch of deepness I'm looking for. Same for Toneboosters Reverb. I use it a lot but I often find myself loading Valhalla for leading sounds where the reverb really matters.
I figured out the deepness on Valhalla is simply EQ the low end

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Hey guys, thanks for you great feedback!
I just opened a thread on the Audiority KVR section, to be used for feature requests: viewtopic.php?f=177&t=498287

Cheers,
Luca

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I just answered the question for me and bought Xenoverb, after testing them both. They´re both sounding pretty well (slight advantage for Shimmer imo), but Xenoverb is much more versatile and a bit easier to use. Formant-algo for example is very nice with its mod and a bit unique, the "endless"-algos also do their job very well and in direct comparison to shimmer, they´re not far away from each other. In addition, Xenoverb has many good presets for starting points and a freeze function (eg. for sampling). Thanks for programming both :)

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