ACTUAL room and speaker sizes?
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- KVRAF
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
Hi guys,
I've been doing some research (again) about acoustic treatment in control rooms and everything relating to that. I have a comprehensive understanding of all the various factors that contribute to good sounding rooms and where the pitfalls lie, but I'm still not finding examples of REAL dimensions etc online...just vague "small room" or "large room" suggestions and L-W-H ratios.
Depending on where you live in the world, concepts of small room or large room change a LOT!
My particular setup atm is 2 KRK V2 Series 8" near/mid fields, and a 12" sub. I'm in a brick room that is actually a double garage, 6m x 6m with a 3m ceiling, but I've reduced the interior dimensions with drywall to be less dimensionally related, following advice from Ethan Winer and others. Other than that my acoustic damping is inadequate for a pro space, and I'm aware of trouble areas in the low frequencies but my plans to address them have been put on the backburner due to various circumstances. One of which is that I might have to leave this space soon and rent another space. Yikes!
Sooo, in prep for that eventuality I thought I'd ask here for some actual (factual) facts and figures before I go committing to a new space that is too small. I realize that with my speakers I need a larger room, but what IS a larger room? Examples in square feet or square meters will be fine, I can do the math for the L-W-H. (Any space I move into will be altered with drywall to get the best out of it, unless it happens to be great as is.)
I never push my monitors hard. The sub is a nice-to-have for checking the lows, but in a space which isn't properly treated for low-end issues it's totally unreliable and I barely use it atm, unless I have a client who particularly needs to feel some air. Then it's a psych-effect box, not a precision tool!
Music-wise I do singer-songwriter demos, pop and rock. The recording rooms aren't part of this equation, so I'm just concerned about the room I mix in.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I've been doing some research (again) about acoustic treatment in control rooms and everything relating to that. I have a comprehensive understanding of all the various factors that contribute to good sounding rooms and where the pitfalls lie, but I'm still not finding examples of REAL dimensions etc online...just vague "small room" or "large room" suggestions and L-W-H ratios.
Depending on where you live in the world, concepts of small room or large room change a LOT!
My particular setup atm is 2 KRK V2 Series 8" near/mid fields, and a 12" sub. I'm in a brick room that is actually a double garage, 6m x 6m with a 3m ceiling, but I've reduced the interior dimensions with drywall to be less dimensionally related, following advice from Ethan Winer and others. Other than that my acoustic damping is inadequate for a pro space, and I'm aware of trouble areas in the low frequencies but my plans to address them have been put on the backburner due to various circumstances. One of which is that I might have to leave this space soon and rent another space. Yikes!
Sooo, in prep for that eventuality I thought I'd ask here for some actual (factual) facts and figures before I go committing to a new space that is too small. I realize that with my speakers I need a larger room, but what IS a larger room? Examples in square feet or square meters will be fine, I can do the math for the L-W-H. (Any space I move into will be altered with drywall to get the best out of it, unless it happens to be great as is.)
I never push my monitors hard. The sub is a nice-to-have for checking the lows, but in a space which isn't properly treated for low-end issues it's totally unreliable and I barely use it atm, unless I have a client who particularly needs to feel some air. Then it's a psych-effect box, not a precision tool!
Music-wise I do singer-songwriter demos, pop and rock. The recording rooms aren't part of this equation, so I'm just concerned about the room I mix in.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
- KVRian
- 513 posts since 22 Sep, 2015
Try these to calculate room size vs speaker positioning
http://noaudiophile.com/speakercalc/
http://www.cardas.com/room_setup_calculators.php
Room size vs mode calculator
https://amcoustics.com/tools/amroc
Also RoomEQWizard for a frequency plot of your space
https://www.roomeqwizard.com/
and lastly this PDF for correctly positioning your speakers.
https://www.genelec.com/documents/catal ... e_2011.pdf
IMO I'd say your monitors are too small for that space more than anything.
http://noaudiophile.com/speakercalc/
http://www.cardas.com/room_setup_calculators.php
Room size vs mode calculator
https://amcoustics.com/tools/amroc
Also RoomEQWizard for a frequency plot of your space
https://www.roomeqwizard.com/
and lastly this PDF for correctly positioning your speakers.
https://www.genelec.com/documents/catal ... e_2011.pdf
IMO I'd say your monitors are too small for that space more than anything.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
Wow, thanks for all the links! Looking forward to going through those.
Monitors too small? That was unexpected. Great! Rather too small than too big, it's much easier to reduce room size than enlarge it!
Monitors too small? That was unexpected. Great! Rather too small than too big, it's much easier to reduce room size than enlarge it!
- KVRian
- 513 posts since 22 Sep, 2015
I have much larger pair of 3 way midfields with 10" bass drivers and a smaller pair of 2 way speakers with 5" bass drivers in a room half your size. The small speakers are rarely turned on.xalama qo wrote:Monitors too small? That was unexpected. Great! Rather too small than too big, it's much easier to reduce room size than enlarge it!
Don't get me wrong those big speakers are probably no way in hell flat in this room, but I don't get some huge overblown bass or anything like that.