Melda Production vs Sound Radix quality?

[Caine123]

i am heavily interested in PI, Powair and, Surfer EQ2 i already have.

i read some stuff about melda is ripping off other ideas etc. whatever atm how do you like e.g. his plugins compared to PI?
i never liked melda's gui's but read a lot those plugins have better quality and are much cheaper.

before i jump on the Sound Radix bundle what are your opinions?

[Apratim]

simply in functionality i would say
surfer eq(was once my go-to) is hardwired,easy on eye,good for quick setup

melda on the other hand is modular(not fully but it is more modular),can be awful on eye(depends on user),not at all easy on eye (you will have to click on shit ton of menu),could be hard to setup if you dont know what is where(pro tip:make preset of your own everytime you make something new).....in short melda is Russian steroid version of surfer eq and other plugins

and thinking that melda rips off ideas you can say that massive,serum,etc wavetable synths are copying/ripping Wolfgang Palm
but each dev have their own twist in their plugin so .....its your opinion if you want to buy it or not

[plexuss]

Well as far as I know Melda doesn't have anything like Pi and Powair. Do they have a pitch surfing EQ like Surfer? I acutally own the Melda creative bundle, MPowersynth and MDrummer and some other stray Melda plugins. They are not by go-to's. Unsure why really. The user interface is one impediment for me, I am not big on "engineering" GUIs but prefer single screen GUIs that have some sense of creative aesthetic. The Melda plugins however do sound very nice in a characterless kind of way. This is not a critisism by the way because I often want to use an audio tool that doesn't impart character, but rather is clean and transparent and I find Melda good for that. But I also have all the Sound Radix plugins as well. I don't really see Sound Radix and Melda over-lapping that much frankly. There is more to a plugin than it's "one line description" meaning that a Melda compressor and a Sound Radix compressor don't over-lap that much because outside of both being compressors, they are quite different.

I think with Melda you first have to gel with his GUI. If you find you enjoy working with it, then decided what tools you want and go from there. For Sound Radix it comes more down to need: do you need phase alignment tools? do you need an EQ that will surf pitch? do you need a tool to carve the envelope of drums? and in the case of Powair, do you want a different take on compression that might open some interesting creative possibilities to you.

[jens]

in short melda is Russian steroid version of surfer eq and other plugins

I thought Vojtech was Czech? (calling a Czech Russian is only a good idea if you want to insult that person)

[VariKusBrainZ]

I really like the Melda Guis since they were updated.

As they all have the same underlying modulation options and architecture, once you learn it you then apply it to all the plugins.

They can be vanilla or totally FSU depending on what you're into

[DocSnyder]

Melda doesn't have PI for example. In the end I would definitely go with SoundRadix! The explanation is pretty easy: they had the idea and the vision of those products. They spent much time developing and testing those algorithms. On the other hand Melda sees and tries to make an own plugin from it within a very short period of time (in case of AutoAlign or DrumLeveler very obvious and shameless). In a Melda thread about MAutoAlign he wrote something like "I took the easiest algorithm that came to my mind, pretty industry standard stuff, SoundRadix won't do it much different" - and that's where he's wrong and that's why MAutoAlign never worked as good as the SoundRadix plugin or even as manual alignment.

Surfer EQ: you could probably emulate those stuff with a Melda EQ. But you need to dig deep into the Melda architecture, UI and setup modulators. But in the end those are very general building blocks. Surfer EQ is a dedicated plugin with is algorithms adjusted to this task.

Btw. better quality is a statement from hisself like he has "the most advanced user interface" He's very good in "false" advertising or making his products look better than they are (yes there was a thread in his subforum too about it). He's good in arguing down other products (like iZotope Neutron), making promises (like his "mixing revolution" will change the way we prehistoric apes work with our tools), but there's never the final product or the release of something that really flashes the people.

[plexuss]

Yeah, you have to be careful of Vojtech because he is very closed minded when it comes to the idea that his plugins are not the best most amazing plugins on the planet with the best GUI and the best algorythms. I understand he is trying to sell products and feed his family but his rhetoric can get very Trumpian. Melda stuff is ok. But its not the best by a long shot. Really though, try the demos and make up your own mind and keep in mind Vojtech is unqualified to present an opinion about his own products due to extreme bias.

I didn't know about the "copying" sound radix ideas! Wow.

Also keep in mind Melda charges considerable transfer fees 20% of the original price - its good to keep this in mind in the event you want to sell them. Sound Radix charges a flat $20 fee.

[Apratim]

Yeah, you have to be careful of Vojtech because he is very closed minded when it comes to the idea that his plugins are not the best most amazing plugins on the planet with the best GUI and the best algorythms.

i agree to that he dosent takes ideas even if it is a simple idea of having sync rate in a single option rather than having a category select option for triplet,straight and dotted.i mean it will be easy to modulate single lane rather than having 2 lanes for the same dammm thing

[frizzbee]

hahaha melda is "trump-esque" i like that comparison

but fun aside of course there are some copies here and there in audio plugin industry, mostly of techniques or features (like drag'n'drop modulation). but i never saw a dev copying that many plugins and especially in no time, with very low effort and that obvious. and acting like he does if someone critisizes him.

having this in my mind i would spent my money on soundradix. not only to reward their originality and creativity but also because their plugin work reliable in 90% of the time while the copycats just don't.

[Neon Breath]

Melda plugins click for some, don't for others.

Personaly, most of the time I like the ideas of his plugins on paper more than for real when used. Technically wise, great plugins but I'm never having fun using them and I always end up using something else instead, mostly because of the bloated and messy GUI that kills my inspiration and workflow.

Try the demos and see for yourself. Some people love them.

[MirkoVanHauten]

i read some stuff about melda is ripping off other ideas etc.

Yes. But his community also is not innocent in that behavior. About 1/5 of the request threads in his subforum start like "dev x has released plugin y. i'm sure meldaproduction can do this too and make it part of the free bundle". It's like people see a good plugin with a fair price but ask him to do a clone for free because they know he would do it. That's how out of hand it got in my opinion.

i never liked melda's gui's

Nonetheless if you're not in love with his gui you probably won't touch them much after you bought them. I owned some of them but I caught myself using other plugins instead. Just because it was no fun opening and tweaking them. Of course it's about the sound and not the look but there are plugins I can get way faster the results I want. And if you're doing music everyday you need to feel comfortable with your tools.

but read a lot those plugins have better quality and are much cheaper.

No, only more (more or less useful) options, but not really quality improvements. Cheaper yes, because he's creating the plugin in a very generic way. So he has all of his generalized building blocks and builds them together (for example thats why the ui needs to be very generic too). No need to spent much time on them or to internally create new stuff.

Another thing you might should keep in mind is his bugfixing mentality. It is always the hosts fault Or a user error. Or a feature not a bug. He'd more like to adjust the daw around his plugins rather than fixing his structure, even if it is a bug that only occurs with his plugins. In this context a positive thing about meldaproduction are the frequent update releases.

[DJErmac]

It would be a huge mistake to misjudge Melda products because of the GUI, the ideas-stealing reputation or the low prices policy. Their products are TOP NOTCH.

Yes, their GUI is... not the best ever. Yes, it's sometimes very difficult to understand why there are so many buttons everywhere that you seem to never use. Yes the presets sometimes seem to have been chosen between the most out-of-this-world-sounding they've found. But the sound is always great, and the plugins can make everything, from note detection to MIDI learn to spectral cloning, everytime I'm trying to do something, they can !

Give a chance to Melda products !

[Soundplex]

As I wrote in your other thread the SoundRadix package works better than their Melda opponents (if there is one!). You'll gain no process quality just by using Melda plugins. They're not better or worse than most other plugins (processingwise). What you have to deal with instead is the ui (I agree with you, worst ever), the workflow (well, sometimes illogical parameter naming and grouping, a couple pop up windows even for easy settings, to me it is not straight ahead) and the dev (!). Someone wrote their plugins are just coding sugar. You can do a lot of stuff that probably made fun coding it but it has no relation to a real musical use. There you only need a couple of standard params.

I worked with SoundRadix a lot. As I found SurferEQ back then I used it for everything, even if wasn't needed But for real it is a great tool like is AutoAlign (nothing comparable reliable to it on the market) or DrumLeveler. Pi works if you don't overdo it. Unfortunately I didn't test POWAIR yet.

[Robmobius]

Hmm... I think the Melda stuff is good but nothing spectacular by any means.

I have the creative FX bundle and never use it. Mainly because I don't like the GUI and I also have plugins that I much prefer the sound of, whether they are better is a matter of opinion.

[Gregorius]

Soundradix: fair priced innovative stable plugins that do their work.
Meldaproduction: copycat with god complex whos plugins won't do their work (in comparison).

But Meldaproduction doesn't have a plugin like pi or surfereq.

edit: meldaprod is not better in quality than any other dev. They only released like a ton of plugins (some from which even most of the fanboys can't describe what the differences are) for marketing purpose (it's only like multiband/non-multiband or like 10 eqs and so on XD).