3am - Steep (modular rhythms and screeches)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12352 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I'm not sure I'm done with this one. I had some other ideas but I though this jam came out pretty well, on it's own. Luckily I was recording!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgLCxQETsMM
And a soundcloud link as well.
https://soundcloud.com/justin3am/steep
Playing a snare drum with a speaker, by feeding signal back from two contact mics attached to the drum, via a Koma Field Kit. Different tensions around the rim and dampening drum heads with my hands results in tonal changes depending on where I put the speaker. I gave up on trying to play it in tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgLCxQETsMM
And a soundcloud link as well.
https://soundcloud.com/justin3am/steep
Playing a snare drum with a speaker, by feeding signal back from two contact mics attached to the drum, via a Koma Field Kit. Different tensions around the rim and dampening drum heads with my hands results in tonal changes depending on where I put the speaker. I gave up on trying to play it in tune.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105800 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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experimental.crow experimental.crow https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6258
- KVRAF
- 6895 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from the bridge of sighs
it's poppins * !!!
i believe you have invented the waterless waterphone ...
*practically perfect in every way ...
i believe you have invented the waterless waterphone ...
*practically perfect in every way ...
- KVRAF
- 6322 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
Snare drum feedback? What is this sorcery?justin3am wrote: Playing a snare drum with a speaker, by feeding signal back from two contact mics attached to the drum, via a Koma Field Kit.
Very cool sounds. You held my attention for 5 minutes without any chord changes or traditional melodies. Nice job!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12352 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
Thanks for listening!
It was a fun experiment and turned out good results without too much tweaking. I was inspired by the discussion in this thread: Sound Design via Feedback Loops: What's your technique?.
The vibrations from scraping the speaker on the drum head are picked up by the contact mics, which are fed back to the speaker, the vibration from the speaker on the drum head, gets the feedback loop oscillating. A number of factors determine the pitch of the oscillation (distance from the two contact mics, tension of the drum head, damping from my fingers on the drum head) and the vibrations of the snare springs cause chaotic interactions. Because there are two contact mics, sometimes I can get two over lapping tones or modulating tones, depending on the position of the speaker. I can also get some vibrato effects by moving shaking the speaker a bit, moving it further and closer to the drum head.
I don't think it's an instrument I'll ever master... but I I was able to get a surprising range of sounds from it. And anything sounds good through a bunch of delay and reverb.
It was a fun experiment and turned out good results without too much tweaking. I was inspired by the discussion in this thread: Sound Design via Feedback Loops: What's your technique?.
The vibrations from scraping the speaker on the drum head are picked up by the contact mics, which are fed back to the speaker, the vibration from the speaker on the drum head, gets the feedback loop oscillating. A number of factors determine the pitch of the oscillation (distance from the two contact mics, tension of the drum head, damping from my fingers on the drum head) and the vibrations of the snare springs cause chaotic interactions. Because there are two contact mics, sometimes I can get two over lapping tones or modulating tones, depending on the position of the speaker. I can also get some vibrato effects by moving shaking the speaker a bit, moving it further and closer to the drum head.
I don't think it's an instrument I'll ever master... but I I was able to get a surprising range of sounds from it. And anything sounds good through a bunch of delay and reverb.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35163 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
That's a great sounding track ... love it. Thanks for the download
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
like I said elsewhere...awesome dude
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12352 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
Thanks friends!
I know that doesn't really answer the question.
Practice? I work with this stuff most of the day, almost everyday. I didn't always make music this way, but it's getting more difficult to remember the techniques I used before. It just becomes like second nature when you are doing it, and it doesn't seem that complex. It's just a bunch of simple things, interacting.ma1225 wrote:That so crazy..how did you manage handle it all together?
I know that doesn't really answer the question.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12352 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I'll give this one more bump.
- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
very different tastes indeed, but theres some genius in some of that
random noise you make that can spark some ideas in my own
stuff, ironically
random noise you make that can spark some ideas in my own
stuff, ironically
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
- Banned
- 849 posts since 3 Jul, 2017
Stunning soundscapes you create here. Btw which bank did you rob in order to buy your equipment?
I am a big fan of modular synthesis, unfortunately I don't own such a thing. I am working digital, which is a different approach.
All in all much too short. Thumbs...
Greetings
HM
I am a big fan of modular synthesis, unfortunately I don't own such a thing. I am working digital, which is a different approach.
All in all much too short. Thumbs...
Greetings
HM
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12352 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
Thanks for listening! I know exactly what you mean. It's valuable to listen to a wide variety of styles and be open to different ideas. It's a great way to keep our own music fresh and interesting.layzer wrote:very different tastes indeed, but theres some genius in some of that
random noise you make that can spark some ideas in my own
stuff, ironically
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- KVRAF
- 2367 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
Bleepbloop?
Voted KVR's resident drunk Robert Smith impersonator (thanks Frantz!)
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2myYesRBRgQB3LkZzEYdt5 | https://soundcloud.com/steevm/
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2myYesRBRgQB3LkZzEYdt5 | https://soundcloud.com/steevm/
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12352 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
lol. I change the scrolling message on my KP3 every so often. In the past it has said "tacos rule", "synthnerd" or just "3am".
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