3am - Steep (modular rhythms and screeches)

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KVRAF
11415 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Post Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:37 pm

I'm not sure I'm done with this one. I had some other ideas but I though this jam came out pretty well, on it's own. Luckily I was recording!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgLCxQETsMM

And a soundcloud link as well.
https://soundcloud.com/justin3am/steep

Playing a snare drum with a speaker, by feeding signal back from two contact mics attached to the drum, via a Koma Field Kit. Different tensions around the rim and dampening drum heads with my hands results in tonal changes depending on where I put the speaker. I gave up on trying to play it in tune. :lol:

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addled muppet weed
79319 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:13 am

nice!
who knew you could get all that musicy goodness out of just one snare drum :o

:hihi:

KVRAF
6587 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from the bridge of sighs

Post Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:47 pm

it's poppins * !!!
i believe you have invented the waterless waterphone ...



*practically perfect in every way ...
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KVRAF
5653 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

Post Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:52 pm

justin3am wrote: Playing a snare drum with a speaker, by feeding signal back from two contact mics attached to the drum, via a Koma Field Kit.
Snare drum feedback? What is this sorcery? :eek:

Very cool sounds. You held my attention for 5 minutes without any chord changes or traditional melodies. Nice job!

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KVRAF

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11415 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Post Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:55 pm

Thanks for listening!
It was a fun experiment and turned out good results without too much tweaking. I was inspired by the discussion in this thread: Sound Design via Feedback Loops: What's your technique?.

The vibrations from scraping the speaker on the drum head are picked up by the contact mics, which are fed back to the speaker, the vibration from the speaker on the drum head, gets the feedback loop oscillating. A number of factors determine the pitch of the oscillation (distance from the two contact mics, tension of the drum head, damping from my fingers on the drum head) and the vibrations of the snare springs cause chaotic interactions. Because there are two contact mics, sometimes I can get two over lapping tones or modulating tones, depending on the position of the speaker. I can also get some vibrato effects by moving shaking the speaker a bit, moving it further and closer to the drum head.

I don't think it's an instrument I'll ever master... :hihi: but I I was able to get a surprising range of sounds from it. And anything sounds good through a bunch of delay and reverb. :D

KVRer
7 posts since 5 Feb, 2018

Post Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:11 pm

That so crazy..how did you manage handle it all together?

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KVRAF
29976 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:20 pm

That's a great sounding track ... love it. Thanks for the download :ud:

Rad Grandad
33201 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Post Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:33 pm

like I said elsewhere...awesome dude :tu:
A toxic person needs someone to attack when their ego is threatened.

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KVRAF

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11415 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Post Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:14 pm

Thanks friends!
ma1225 wrote:That so crazy..how did you manage handle it all together?
:oops: Practice? I work with this stuff most of the day, almost everyday. I didn't always make music this way, but it's getting more difficult to remember the techniques I used before. It just becomes like second nature when you are doing it, and it doesn't seem that complex. It's just a bunch of simple things, interacting.

I know that doesn't really answer the question. :ud:

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KVRAF

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11415 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:31 am

I'll give this one more bump.

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KVRAF
7651 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Post Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:15 pm

very different tastes indeed, but theres some genius in some of that
random noise you make that can spark some ideas in my own
stuff, ironically :idea:
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KVRian
652 posts since 3 Jul, 2017

Post Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:01 am

Stunning soundscapes you create here. Btw which bank did you rob in order to buy your equipment?
I am a big fan of modular synthesis, unfortunately I don't own such a thing. I am working digital, which is a different approach.

All in all much too short. Thumbs...
Greetings
HM

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KVRAF

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11415 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Post Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:53 pm

layzer wrote:very different tastes indeed, but theres some genius in some of that
random noise you make that can spark some ideas in my own
stuff, ironically :idea:
Thanks for listening! I know exactly what you mean. It's valuable to listen to a wide variety of styles and be open to different ideas. It's a great way to keep our own music fresh and interesting. :tu:

sjm
KVRAF
2071 posts since 17 Apr, 2004

Post Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:10 pm

Bleepbloop?
Voted KVR's resident drunk Robert Smith impersonator (thanks Frantz!)

https://soundcloud.com/steevm/

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KVRAF

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11415 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California

Post Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:43 pm

lol. I change the scrolling message on my KP3 every so often. In the past it has said "tacos rule", "synthnerd" or just "3am".
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