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neutrino.sky · Post by **neutrino.sky** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:49 pm

So I've been experimenting with creating a Dexed Librarian (yay!).
Milestone 1 achieved: I've managed to import Dexed SYX files and create a library (thanks to the awesome curation work by @BlackWinny!) I can select patches and audition them in Dexed.

Dexed.Librarian prototype.PNG

Things that I've learned:

* Dexed has a ludicrous number of patches. 100K+. Seriously??!! This is a crazy amount.
* I've had to merge multiple SYX banks to create a 'library bank', otherwise the UI crashes
* Importing takes a looong time (30mins on my Intel Q6700 16Gb)
* Because there are so many patches, I'm going to need to add an embedded database engine. The memory footprint is too big, and the initial load takes too long.

This is still a prototype at this stage. Categories and Heuristic matching are still missing.

In terms of Categories, I was going to re-use the same set from Synth1 Librarian. Anyone want to suggest what categories they'd like to see?

carrieres · Post by **carrieres** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:44 am

nice !

future-bit · Post by **future-bit** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:28 am

Cool!

noiseresearch · Post by **noiseresearch** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:56 pm

/* whitenoise */

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:14 pm

neutrino.sky wrote: * Dexed has a ludicrous number of patches. 100K+. Seriously??!! This is a crazy amount.

This made me laugh!

Keep it up, just think what a time saving difference this tool will make to Dexed fans!

Getting excited!

Yay!

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:30 pm

resistent wrote:Nice. I appreciated your work but wonder what would be the difference to the managment within Dexed?

Regards

Have you checked out the Synth1 Librarian from Neutrino Sky yet? He will probably use a similar design approach.

The Synth1 librarian doesn't change the synth management itself, you select and play the sounds from the librarian UI, and it loads the sound into the synth. You don't even need to open the synth UI unless you want to.

There is a button in the librarian you can push to display the synth UI if you want to tweak the actual sound itself.

Megawattt · Post by **Megawattt** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:32 pm

Hi there Neutrino Sky.

You are a Hero! i have just discovered your Synth 1 Librarian and i am blown away! the problem is that only version Synth1LibrarianSetup_2018.126_64bit.exe would open up and work in my DAW which is Synapse Audio Orion 8.6 running in Windows 7 64 bit, none of the newer versions would load, please is it possible while you are developing to tweak your Dexed Librarian to work in my DAW?

neutrino.sky · Post by **neutrino.sky** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:01 pm

Hey Megawatt, sorry to hear about the problems with Synth1 Librarian.

If you leave a post on the Synth1 Librarian thread (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=496615) with details of the problems you're having, I'll look into it further. There have been lots of fixes and improvements since v2018.126, and I don't want you to miss out!

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:25 pm

That's absolutely GREAT !

And yes, the amount of presets which have been made for the Yamaha DX7 is so high that it needs a brand new type of memory management in the style of an internal database (with at least an index and perhaps even several indices) to reduce the huge memory hog.

Even for me, when I made the compilation it has been a big problem, and being not a developer I had to use Excel as a kind of database.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:44 pm

Great news!!!!!!

neutrino.sky · Post by **neutrino.sky** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:51 pm

@BlackWinny: You used EXCEL??!! I'm so sorry...

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:58 pm

neutrino.sky wrote:@BlackWinny: You used EXCEL??!! I'm so sorry...

Ha Ha ! Don't worry... It was better than nothing.

Megawattt · Post by **Megawattt** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:51 pm

neutrino.sky wrote:Hey Megawatt, sorry to hear about the problems with Synth1 Librarian.

If you leave a post on the Synth1 Librarian thread (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=496615) with details of the problems you're having, I'll look into it further. There have been lots of fixes and improvements since v2018.126, and I don't want you to miss out!

Hi there Neutrino Sky.

I have sent you a PM

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:14 am

Megawattt wrote:
neutrino.sky wrote:Hey Megawatt, sorry to hear about the problems with Synth1 Librarian.

If you leave a post on the Synth1 Librarian thread (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=496615) with details of the problems you're having, I'll look into it further. There have been lots of fixes and improvements since v2018.126, and I don't want you to miss out!
Hi there Neutrino Sky.

I have sent you a PM

I would expect that he only answers PMs from paying customers.

But you could always try posting where he asked you to.

Megawattt · Post by **Megawattt** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:39 am

zzz00m wrote:
Megawattt wrote:
neutrino.sky wrote:Hey Megawatt, sorry to hear about the problems with Synth1 Librarian.

If you leave a post on the Synth1 Librarian thread (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=496615) with details of the problems you're having, I'll look into it further. There have been lots of fixes and improvements since v2018.126, and I don't want you to miss out!
Hi there Neutrino Sky.

I have sent you a PM
I would expect that he only answers PMs from paying customers.

But you could always try posting where he asked you to.

Luckily Neutrino Sky was kind enough to answer my PM

Hi Neutrino, i have sent another PM

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