is this a cool idea?

[Shane Sanders]

Wouldn't it be extremely cool and useful if your host treated each mixer strip and all the associated DXi/VSTs in a drag and drop manner over various instances of the host?

Imagine this: You are working on a mix and so is your guitarist who lives on the other side of the planet - he's pounding out his parts and you're twiddling with fills on the snare. You open up the mix he just sent you and dragNdrop the new bassline (which had just the perfect compression and EQ) into your mix. You fiddle with a few things, then remember that a song you abandoned had a killer conga part that would work for this piece. So you do the same thing with another instance of your host, then just close it after you've swiped what you need from yourself. Etc. etc. Easy artistic cannibalism.

No more exporting MIDI and setting up mixer settings and various VST nonsense. The artistic flow never stops.

Why doesn't this exist?

[VitaminD]

this sounds somewhat of a pattern-based sequencer like orion or fruity..

except you cant move from one to another ala drag 'n drop.. but you can copy/paste mixer settings and such..

[Shane Sanders]

this sounds somewhat of a pattern-based sequencer like orion or fruity..

except you cant move from one to another ala drag 'n drop.. but you can copy/paste mixer settings and such..

Yeah, it's the pattern-based sequencers that would benefit the most from my idea. A mixer strip is really nothing more than a bunch of references, so it ought to be dragNdrop, thus simplyfying every aspect of the central workspace. In an ideal situation, all your midi and song form information would be totally separate so that you could start to treat mixer strips as "instruments". You'd just load up an arrangement and then drop a bunch of your favorite mixers (loaded to the gills with forethought) into place. One would have the option of moving or not moving the midi data along with the mixer at the time of decision.

I have so many little songs and bits that I'd like to just throw into an arrangement from time to time, just to see if they'd work musically, but it's such a buzz kill to export midi and patches to make this artistically feasible all the time. I just want to make music and look at the big picture. Sigh.

[Sicklecell666]

eXT probably has the most drag & drop functionality of any host I have used to date, & the grinding path of the host's development appears to not be slowing down at all.

Were you join to consider joining the ranks of of eXT users & suggest this idea of yours, I would be hardly surprised to see it implemented within a month.

cheers,

[Shane Sanders]

eXT probably has the most drag & drop functionality of any host I have used to date, & the grinding path of the host's development appears to not be slowing down at all.

Were you join to consider joining the ranks of of eXT users & suggest this idea of yours, I would be hardly surprised to see it implemented within a month.

cheers,

I actually have eXT, but haven't had time to explore it beyond just using it as a modular effects box. Let's all refine my idea in this thread, as it relates to what eXT is now, and then let's make an appeal for the implementation part. Many voices are better than one in both the brainstorming and requesting. We could probably come up with a lot of good ideas.

[Reverse Engineer]

eXT probably has the most drag & drop functionality of any host I have used to date, & the grinding path of the host's development appears to not be slowing down at all.

Were you join to consider joining the ranks of of eXT users & suggest this idea of yours, I would be hardly surprised to see it implemented within a month.

cheers,

I'll second this.

Everytime there's an update for eXT the list is as long as your arm, and you can always pick at least one thing out of that list that is one of those options you've always been waiting for..........and this happens on a regular basis too.

Edit : tis true nonetheless....functionality is a great thing (of course ) but useability....

[Sicklecell666]

You've given me a brain storm here that I'll need to discuss with NikFit.

I don't know how far along you are in setting up eXT's sequncer, but you have the option of having several arrangements that you can choose between at any given time that will also play in sync. Each arrangement is basically an entire song with send, insert, & envelope automation info in it. It's used basically (by me, anyways)to combine or seperate music parts without making a disaster in my main track group.

What I do not see at this point is a save & import option for these seperate arrangements.

You could have made a very good suggestion for any host, but a truly great thing to implement in eXT.

I'm gonna talk to NikFit about this tonight.

Keep the think-tank rolling, I gotta hit the road..BBL..

[experimental.crow]

FLS users can take advantage of 'project bones' , which offers many of the items you have outlined ...

[Sicklecell666]

Oh.

Well since that's already been done, why bother pushing this idea any further..

[Shane Sanders]

FLS users can take advantage of 'project bones' , which offers many of the items you have outlined ...

FL's approach to song arrangement just sinks my ship - though I love the app as a part of my arsenal. I have to have Sonar or Orion for sequencing. I realize FL doesn't bother other folks as much. My tracks just have too many parts.

But this new idea really be a great thing in eXT, as pointed out earlier in the thread.

[glurgle]

this can be done in tracktion with only slightly more difficulty than dragging and dropping.

open the song that has the part you want to borrow, select the track and hit ctrl+c (or right click and copy)

now open up the song you want it to go to, and hit ctrl+v (or right click paste ;)

the track is now in the other song with all of it's settings and arrangement intact.

Of course dragging and dropping is cool, but then you'd have to have enough resources available to have both songs loaded up at once. What would be waaay more fun is if you could snag the tracks without even opening the edit, which leads me to go post something in tracktion-land.

[Shane Sanders]

this can be done in tracktion with only slightly more difficulty than dragging and dropping.

open the song that has the part you want to borrow, select the track and hit ctrl+c (or right click and copy)

now open up the song you want it to go to, and hit ctrl+v (or right click paste

the track is now in the other song with all of it's settings and arrangement intact.

Of course dragging and dropping is cool, but then you'd have to have enough resources available to have both songs loaded up at once. What would be waaay more fun is if you could snag the tracks without even opening the edit, which leads me to go post something in tracktion-land.

Yeah, now you're talking. Total modularity and a way to catalog what it is you've got in tow. I like.

[glurgle]

I seem to recall you giving tracktion a go in the past, if you're interested check out the post I made in the T forum

[Sicklecell666]

I am preparing a slightly different take on this in the eXT forums. Every host will handle this task differently, but I'll post my full request here after I get it together.

[Rozzer]

SX2 has a nice 'Save Track' feature, which does roughly what you describe.