Hello there,
Is there a way to use Patchwork in standalone mode loaded with a guitar mod plugin like Bias, feed it from the output of your audio interface and then into Pro Tools to record it. I am trying to eliminate the delay when trying to record an overdub and using a standalone version of the guitar plugin eliminates the delay when playing but I cannot find a way to have the output of the standalone to show up as an input in Pro Tools. Wondering is Patchwork can handle this?
Thanks,
Dave
Patchwork
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- KVRAF
- 7110 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
A standalone version has the same considerations as a daw - so don't think you gain anything.
Look for a setting like "constrain pdc" or similar in daw to remove extra latency involved through plugins while recording new stuff. Or learn what latency each plugin generate so you can disable those while recording. You don't need a full mix to record something is what I found.
ProTools has an excellent feature to view in console mixer that shows all pdc involved on each track. And system also has a total pdc involved in playing back current mix.
And quality of audio interface matters a lot which roundtrip latency you get anyway.
Look for a setting like "constrain pdc" or similar in daw to remove extra latency involved through plugins while recording new stuff. Or learn what latency each plugin generate so you can disable those while recording. You don't need a full mix to record something is what I found.
ProTools has an excellent feature to view in console mixer that shows all pdc involved on each track. And system also has a total pdc involved in playing back current mix.
And quality of audio interface matters a lot which roundtrip latency you get anyway.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35506 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
What you're asking is 'sort of' possible, but only with specific gear. Its complex. Daisy-chaining the output of one application into another is generally hard, or avoided.
Each standalone audio software you run needs to access the audio hardware via a driver. There are different 'types' of driver (DirectX, MME, WASAPI on Windows, CoreAudio on Mac, ASIO on both) and some are notoriously 'slow' for audio.
Drivers, generally, do not talk to each other. Some (ASIO in particular) only allow one device to use them at a time. Most of them, even those for audio cards with multiple input and output channels dont have any way to route audio around 'inside' the driver. And there are also 'virtual' drivers, which act like a driver of a specific type, but often have ways of doing that routing. So there are ways to do it, its just... complex.
So finding a way of doing what you're saying, and then getting it to perform the way you want it, is probably going to be quite hard, and there's a fair chance it isnt possible with the gear you've got.
Your likely best 'easy' solution is to optimise the latency you're getting in PT. Start by adjusting the PT settings, but a soundcard capable of lower latencies might be something to consider.
Each standalone audio software you run needs to access the audio hardware via a driver. There are different 'types' of driver (DirectX, MME, WASAPI on Windows, CoreAudio on Mac, ASIO on both) and some are notoriously 'slow' for audio.
Drivers, generally, do not talk to each other. Some (ASIO in particular) only allow one device to use them at a time. Most of them, even those for audio cards with multiple input and output channels dont have any way to route audio around 'inside' the driver. And there are also 'virtual' drivers, which act like a driver of a specific type, but often have ways of doing that routing. So there are ways to do it, its just... complex.
So finding a way of doing what you're saying, and then getting it to perform the way you want it, is probably going to be quite hard, and there's a fair chance it isnt possible with the gear you've got.
Your likely best 'easy' solution is to optimise the latency you're getting in PT. Start by adjusting the PT settings, but a soundcard capable of lower latencies might be something to consider.
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