Zildjian 15" Foot Hat Samples?

[tommyzai]

I recently created a thread looking for half-open hat samples. Now, I'm looking for what I believe are called "Foot Hat" samples. I'm not a drummer . . . so I don't know the correct terminology. This is the sound made when a drummer stomps on the pedal to open and close the hat. There are no sticks involved. I'm trying to build a Zildjian 15" hat kit to recreate an authentic Ringo-ish sound. He rarely tick tick ticked. He mostly washed over the hats or stomped the pedal.

Where can I find such samples?

Thank you!!

[DSmolken]

Same answer as last time, actually. That's called a "chik" in drummer-speak, and pretty much any acoustic drum samples are gonna include it. Some hi-hat techniques aren't always sampled, but closed, open and chik are pretty standard.

You might also want something with a Ringo-ish microphone setup and recording room. I'm not sure what those would be, but someone out there has documented and analyzed all that, I'm sure.

[tommyzai]

Would the MIDI allocation be the pedal hi hat?

42Closed Hi Hat
43High Floor Tom
44Pedal Hi-Hat
45Low Tom
46Open Hi-Hat

[Etienne1973]

Perhaps Native Instruments Abbey Road 50s Drummer and/or 60s Drummer ?
You get whole kits which sound very Beat genre like.

[an-electric-heart]

I've never heard them called a "chik" as far as labelling samples go... in fact I've never heard them called that, full stop. I think they're commonly called "hi-hat stomps", or just "hi-hat pedal".

[tommyzai]

. . . I think they're commonly called "hi-hat stomps", or just "hi-hat pedal".

Would Hi Hat Pedal and Foot Hi Hat be the same thing? Is that the sound found on G# between the standard closed hat on F# and the open on A#?

[jancivil]

"pedal" is the one typically mapped on G#, yes. It does not typically splash it, it closes it and that's that. In say BFD3 terms the kicking-it-open is called 'Splash' and I look to load it at a different G#, just to keep up with it best.

You eventually want to get a good drum vi + library rather than try and piece it together ad hoc, that is if you want a drums track to sound like drums played, you want multisampled, many layers, here especially with hihat.

[tommyzai]

Thanks!! I'm using these samples/kits mostly for educational purposes. I have much research to do . . . learning a lot along the way. Continued thanks!

[an-electric-heart]

You should try and find one library that has all articulations, rather than getting open hats from one place, then pedals from another and so on. There was a free drum sample pack called "NS kit free" that was pretty good, I had a quick Google and couldn't find it, but if put in the time I reckon you'll find it. It's not as good as commercial samples like SSD or Slate, but it does sound pretty nice, and it's a pretty extensive library.

[an-electric-heart]

Actually, you might want to try Steven Slate Free;

https://stevenslatedrums.com/SSD5/#SSD5FREE

[jancivil]

NS 7 Free Kit hasn't existed for over a decade, actually. The company was sold and there was a paid version around 2008.

[an-electric-heart]

NS 7 Free Kit hasn't existed for over a decade, actually. The company was sold and there was a paid version around 2008.

Oh geez... that long!

[SoundPorn]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JN7oQE ... GpKL/views

[SoundPorn]

https://freewavesamples.com/drum/pedal-hi-hat

[tommyzai]

Thank you!!