Any Studio One 4 Users Using Waveform 9/10 Alongside?

[Musical Gym]

Curious as to workflow if you're using both for songs/projects.

[Steve Bolivar]

I have both but only recently got S1v4. Pretty sure what many people do is have a DAW like Ableton/Bitwig/Reason/Waveform that's better at creation than mixing(they don't suck at mixing, just others may have a way that some people may like better) and after songs are written, export the individual tracks or stems to a more traditional DAW like S1 for mixing.

[THE INTRANCER]

Using other DAWs, whether that's flipping between them or along side in a productivity sense is more of a distraction and for me at least, one that can break the mental zone one is in when producing a track. When you create a piece of music, it's less to do with what tools you have but rather the single core computer in your brain that is able to process the information to concentrate on. It's for that reason I don't even use Rewire.... and despite using Reason in my case for over 13 years.. which has so many bells and whistles added to it, I don't need it or even think about needing it. The amount of options and flexibility I have in something like Studio One, is far greater than my brain can process at anyone time as it is, particularly when one has over 300 plugins to consider. In a practical sense, it's a waste of CPU resources to use more than one DAW simultaneously as well.

[LawrenceF]

Pretty sure what many people do is have a DAW like Ableton/Bitwig/Reason/Waveform that's better at creation than mixing(they don't suck at mixing, just others may have a way that some people may like better) and after songs are written, export the individual tracks or stems to a more traditional DAW like S1 for mixing.

True. For some people those two things aren't even really directly connected (time frame wise), production and mixing. I know people who produce in X thing, Live, FLStudio, whatever, and later mix in Y thing, S1, Reaper, Pro Tools, MixBus, whatever.

It's all just tools in the larger toolbox. Pick the best tool for the job in front of you today, and maybe another different one tomorrow.

P.S. Waveform 10 looks pretty nice.

[mtelesha]

I use Waveform and then use Bitwig as a launcher/sequencer for Live stuff.

My work flow is my audio flies are in the export of Waveform and then I import those wave files to Bitwig. I make a change in Waveform and one click export and everything works great.

I love Waveform but they need to market this as a DAW with the best composition tool you can use with other DAWs. The midi generating and chord track makes making midi songs so much easier.

[LawrenceF]

What can inhibit a good production tool for that kind of use is the relative efficiency (or lack of) when exporting stems. I mean, if it's a major hassle to export good stems before moving those over to your mix platform, that could become somewhat annoying.

It should be pretty straight forward and easy to export good stems, mono and stereo, pre or post fader, all in one go, with or without FX, but some products fall a little short in that regard.

[Musical Gym]

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I love Waveform but they need to market this as a DAW with the best composition tool you can use with other DAWs. The midi generating and chord track makes making midi songs so much easier.

Yes, that's the functionality (so far) which makes me think it would be worth learning to augment S1. I'm liking S1's chord track more and more, but as far as I can tell, Waveform's got it beat composition-wise. I'd like to rewire it into S1 if they implement it someday.

[AdvancedFollower]

I've tried the demo and it looks extremely clean and nice. Studio One (my primary DAW) can get a bit cluttered at times, and it's not exactly "pretty" to look at. However I haven't found enough reasons to switch DAWs or incorporate Waveform somehow in my workflow. I love mixing in Studio One, and I also find it has pretty good tools for creation, composition, arrangement etc. (especially with version 4). I don't want to use Rewire or export stems either, as I feel that would just add extra steps and complexity to something that's already complex and difficult.

[jonljacobi]

Studio One, a bit cluttered? That’s like calling queen Elizabeth a bit English. Sorry. Still a very powerful DAW. Love Waveform’s clean look, but I’m still kicking tires. It unfortunately, renders very slow on my 2012 i7 iMac.

[tonedef71]

I switched from the Waveform/Sonar DAWs to Studio One. I mainly keep the Waveform/Sonar DAWs around just for opening up old projects; while I could also continue to use them for creating and manipulating new MIDI content, Studio One has so far been able to satisfy all my MIDI needs (I do not use external MIDI hardware; just virtual instruments). I do occasionally use FLStudio 20 to create new content, but I have so many excellent third party compositional tools (e.g. Scaler, RapidComposer, EZKeys, Sundog, Riffer, etc.) to help me generate new ideas.