Trying to upgrade to Cubase 10 pro

[ChamomileShark]

.hi, I'm on 9.5 so I've just taken advantage of the 50% off.

But I'm having problems with the upgrade / update.

I've paid, got my activation code and gone to the download assistant, selected Cubase 10.

I've then downloaded the Cubase 10.020 UPDATE file (rather than Cubase 10.02. FULL). Click on that file and it lists what it is going to do. Against Cubase 10 Update it says " No Change" click on that to get more detail and it says "Cubase 10 not installed".

What am I missing here? I'd rather not do the full 21GB download

[jancivil]

You def need the full installation. And there's no way around that ludicrous download. You can install next-to-none of the content, for instance my installation is not a lot more than 1GB but the download is what it is. Steinberg Download Assistant is faster than most routes to the destination.

[ChamomileShark]

are ok, thanks for that. Hopefully it will recognise the content that is already there and it will simply update content.

thanks!

[fmr]

You should definitely install the Steinberg Download Assistant. I was checking and the installer that was previously there (which was a special installer for users that had version 9 already installed) no longer exists.

So, I think that now you will have to download the full installer, which is 21.13 GB. The update will not solve anything, since it will not install Cubase, because it will not be able to find a previous Cubase 10 installation.

[DrEntropy]

You would think Cubase would be smarter and not require everyone to download the full 20Gb file first and then decide what to install..... but I guess they like stressing their servers

[Reefius]

I think it's common practice that a major version requires a full installer. There is a difference between an update (9 to 9.5) and an upgrade (9.5 to 10).

[fmr]

You would think Cubase would be smarter and not require everyone to download the full 20Gb file first and then decide what to install..... but I guess they like stressing their servers

As I said, I think they had a smaller "upgrade" installer, when Cubase 10 was launched (if I remember well, but I may be mistaken). Anyway, now you have only that option.

[jancivil]

are ok, thanks for that. Hopefully it will recognise the content that is already there and it will simply update content.

thanks!

What it is is you expand the dialogue to see all the content, with checkboxes on the left and choose what it installs.
If you do not attend to this, afaik the default behavior is install all of it.

[e@rs]

Why they force the customers to download 21 GB (when the DAW installer is ~350 MB) is beyond my comprehension ability. All other DAW devs I know give you the main program separated from the additional stuff. WTF, Steinberg?

[jancivil]

and a lot of that, once installed is not recognized by the plugin. It's a mess. I was curious about some content again, but never again. I did all I could, and 'Some files are missing' no matter. (The 'Steinberg Library Manager' red-flagged three files and they were exactly where they were indicated to be in that app. But different file sizes. And this was in fact three copies of one file, looking for one in every possible directory I guess. And in a start of Nuendo, I pointed the error window to the locations I knew from right away, it acted like all is a go, but in Halion Sonic SE 'some files are missing'.)
Back to a very minimal installation.

So if you're going to try and use, eg., Halion Sonic SE anywhere, good luck. The full Halion 6, took out a 30-day trial twice (they won't give you more than one at the same email address or on the same dongle), it has its own Library Manager, which works. Hate it anyway. Love Nuendo, like Cubase, everything else thanks but no thanks. Never again after the waste of time today.

[felis]

...I've then downloaded the Cubase 10.020 UPDATE file (rather than Cubase 10.02. FULL). ....

The Update 10.0.20 file updates an existing install of 10.
Like the others say, when going from 9.5 to 10 I think you have to do the full install.

[felis]

I think it's common practice that a major version requires a full installer. There is a difference between an update (9 to 9.5) and an upgrade (9.5 to 10).

An update brings a program up to current - like 9.5 Pro to 10 Pro.

An upgrade replaces a program with a higher level program - like 10 Elements to 10 Pro.

[felis]

Why they force the customers to download 21 GB (when the DAW installer is ~350 MB) is beyond my comprehension ability. All other DAW devs I know give you the main program separated from the additional stuff. WTF, Steinberg?

Ya - I don't get that.
Most of it is 'content' and not the actual DAW, and most of it is already installed.
There should be a download for just whatever changes are necessary.

[Reefius]

An update brings a program up to current - like 9.5 Pro to 10 Pro.

An upgrade replaces a program with a higher level program - like 10 Elements to 10 Pro.

You're right, I stand corrected

In case of Cubase, the small (free) bugfix updates come as smaller size update installers, while big paid updates usually require a full download because they actually install a new version of the software while keeping the old version intact.