there are many different aspects of these hybrid wavetable monsters, here i list what i know about their 'drum' feature, if exist:
-icarus2 and avenger has a 'ready to use' drum sequencer
-synthmaster has a drum solution and drumkit presets, but its quite light
-in pigments, you can modulate among 6 loaded sample, but that means you can hear 1 sample at any time
-serum: no such thing
-phase plant: no such thing
-falcon: i have read falcon even has an euclidean sequencer in its tools
Wavetable Blowout: Massive X vs Avenger vs Serum vs Icarus vs Pigments...
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- KVRAF
- 2641 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
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- KVRAF
- 2402 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
I absolutely love Pigments.
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- KVRer
- 20 posts since 30 Sep, 2018 from Melbourne, Australia
The thing is, to my ears Massive X sounds significantly better than any of the others. YMMV.
To be fair I haven’t tried Rapid.
To be fair I haven’t tried Rapid.
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- KVRAF
- 5895 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
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- KVRAF
- 4476 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
Tbh, that´s the last thing I would ever need in a synth... what shall this serve apart from showcase presets??? It´s completely useless imho... if I want a drum machine I don´t buy a synth, I buy a drum machine...
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
This!
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- KVRist
- 208 posts since 5 Oct, 2014 from Rome
Yes, I agree, drumming on synths doesn't thrill me.
But I think dune_rave meant that those synths can do drums too.
Back to the preferences, as far as I tried:
Massive X has a beautiful sounding. Full and rich. Not so intuitive UI.
Serum has a simple UI and it's really fun to play with. Great filters, great power but you have to discover its potential.
Pigments has all these features together, IMO the best choice to learn and to make sounds.
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- KVRAF
- 35448 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Another +1 for this.
Actually, I always wondered why some drum machines don't let you load VSTi's for the different modules. That would be a obvious feature for me.
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- KVRAF
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Pigments is my favourite for sound design and expression - it feels alive as a musical instrument. Massive X for overall power and sound quality probably surpasses it but it's less fun to play and do sound design on, preset management is terrible and at the moment NI seem to be behind on things like MPE support and expression (Partly I think because they keep trying to shoehorn synths into the Maschine environment which is just too limited for instruments).
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- KVRAF
- 1748 posts since 2 Jul, 2018
In Icarus the drum-sequencer is not limited to playing drum-sounds. It is a small multi-timbral synthesizer that is able to play looped samples or waveforms with or without pitch-tracking. It does also come with a smart auto-accompaniment which automatically resolves the chord that you are currently playing and plays a bass-line that 'fits'.
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- KVRist
- 95 posts since 17 Jan, 2014
Hi Markus,Markus Krause wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:55 pm In Icarus the drum-sequencer is not limited to playing drum-sounds. It is a small multi-timbral synthesizer that is able to play looped samples or waveforms with or without pitch-tracking. It does also come with a smart auto-accompaniment which automatically resolves the chord that you are currently playing and plays a bass-line that 'fits'.
Is there a resource (video, tutirial or guide) which demonstrates this feature?Very interested about the auto-accompaniment function.
Thanks
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- KVRian
- 690 posts since 31 May, 2002 from chez moi
I've been demoing Pigments 2 and Massive X for quite a while. It's a really tough choice. I think the the filters and definitely the effects on Massive X are better. Pigments of course has the granular engine and while I don't think I would ever design a sound with it, some of the presets that use it sound great. I know people find Pigments easy to use and I think Massive X is also pretty easy. The drag and drop modulation works well, along with with voice controls and the routing controls. Pretty simple and flexible imo.
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- KVRAF
- 1748 posts since 2 Jul, 2018
You can download the free demo from the website. The feature is explained in the handbook.taldt33 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:27 pmHi Markus,Markus Krause wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:55 pm In Icarus the drum-sequencer is not limited to playing drum-sounds. It is a small multi-timbral synthesizer that is able to play looped samples or waveforms with or without pitch-tracking. It does also come with a smart auto-accompaniment which automatically resolves the chord that you are currently playing and plays a bass-line that 'fits'.
Is there a resource (video, tutirial or guide) which demonstrates this feature?Very interested about the auto-accompaniment function.
Thanks
It resolves the chord that you are currently playing. So the bassline that plays in the background always plays the 'right tune'
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- KVRAF
- 1748 posts since 2 Jul, 2018
The patches in the 1Finger category make use of it
