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festeringheap · Post by **festeringheap** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:05 pm

Is Propellerhead (ReasonStudios) the first DAW to offer their proprietary Instruments/Effects as a plugin for use in other DAWs?

Will others follow suit?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:07 pm

Nope. I think FL Studio and EnergyXT do the same.

About whether others will follow: I don't think so. There's not many DAW's who have that kind of rack/plugin/whatever approach. At least i can't imagine how Cubase would integare as a VST in other hosts... they have some of their DAW included VST's for sale and use in other DAW's anyway. For Reason it definitely makes sense though. Good move.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:18 pm

Cubase does too (Padshop, Retrologue), Waveform (Biotek2, DAW Essentials effects)

ralfrobert · Post by **ralfrobert** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:20 pm

Akai MPC software too.

reusenoise · Post by **reusenoise** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:25 pm

Renoise>Redux

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:26 pm

Mulab ( mux ) , Renoise ( Redux ) , are some others.

GreyLion · Post by **GreyLion** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:27 pm

Some of the Sonar plugs could be used in other DAWS. Though others would let you insert them as VSTs and then crash, in my experience.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:34 pm

Cakewalk By Bandlab, have a few, but it's dependent if you keep CbB installed that is.

Reapers plugins, if you can cope with the GUI's.

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:37 pm

reusenoise wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:25 pm Renoise>Redux

beat me to it by a minute .

reusenoise · Post by **reusenoise** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:40 pm

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:49 pm

I'm waiting for the first plugin suite to become a DAW.

mheo · Post by **mheo** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:40 pm

As far as I know, the only "Propellerhead" product also available as an independent AU/VST plugin is Europa. Reason instruments & effects (Thor, Substractor, Maelstrom, DrRex etc.) still need Reason in order to run in other DAWS (the way it has always worked via "Rewire" so far, now via "Reason Rack VST/AU"). Meaning: there is still no way to buy them separately (see FL/Cubase plugins: Halion, Directwave, Groove Agent, Sytrus etc.). Or did I miss something?

Benutzername · Post by **Benutzername** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:42 am

yellowmix wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:49 pm I'm waiting for the first plugin suite to become a DAW.

Machine

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:48 am

mheo wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:40 pm As far as I know, the only "Propellerhead" product also available as an independent AU/VST plugin is Europa. Reason instruments & effects (Thor, Substractor, Maelstrom, DrRex etc.) still need Reason in order to run in other DAWS (the way it has always worked via "Rewire" so far, now via "Reason Rack VST/AU"). Meaning: there is still no way to buy them separately (see FL/Cubase plugins: Halion, Directwave, Groove Agent, Sytrus etc.). Or did I miss something?

Europa VST/AU will be discontinued with Reason 11.

So, yeah, no way to buy them separately. But... you get Europa, Thor, Subtractor, Kong and others with Reason Intro for 79 €, and that's quite a bargain (the RV7000 reverb is pretty darn nice too). You probably will have most of the functionality that you'd have with "native" VST's (although i'm not sure how automation and stuff works) as well.

Winstontaneous · Post by **Winstontaneous** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:08 pm

Ooh interesting, I always thought this was the direction Reason should have taken instead of becoming a mediocre DAW when they launched Record a decade ago. Hope the plugin is every bit as reliable and resource-efficient as the standalone!

Is Propellerhead (ReasonStudios) the first DAW to offer their Instruments/Effects as a plugin in other DAWs?