Live Question: recording parts to an existing recording

[Ben [Camel Audio]]

Hi,

I'm just trying to figure out how to do something with Live 4. I would be extremely greatful if some kind soul could point me in the right direction. What I'm trying to do is this: I have a tune which has been played to a click track of vocals/guitar. I also have a live session set up with all the beat loops I've created to go along with it. What I want to do, is record my muting/unmuting of clips, filter tweaking etc whilst I listen to the vocals/guitar track.

To this end, I have created an audio track, and dropped the vocals/guitar wav in on the arrange page. I've turned off overwrite mode. I then change back to the session view and hit record and play. The audio track does not play back however (in fact, the section over which I've recorded gets removed on the arrange page). How do I make it play back, whilst also playing back elements on the session page?

Apologies for being stupid, but if anyone could help out, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks
Ben

[Ben [Camel Audio]]

Despite another hour of searching, I still haven't discovered how to do this. Anyone any ideas?

Thanks
Ben

[meister eder]

Make sure that none of your clips in Session view sits on the same track (channel) that your playback sits on.
Also (in Session view) remove the "Stop" buttons from the tracks that your playback sits on, so you wont accidentaly activate non existant clips when you trigger a whole scene at once. To remove the "Stop" button, select the all the clip slots on the tracks in question (by shift-click or click-drag-multiselecting) and hit Command-E (Mac; I guess Ctrl.-E on PC).

[meister eder]

And here a more overall explanation about Live's principle:

• In general, when you hit play, always the Arrange will play back.

• As soon as you trigger a clip in Session view, the clip will temporarily overwrite what's on the same track in Arrange - no matter if 'Record' is enabled or not. The red square in the toolbar indicates that you have made changes and are not solely hearing the Arrangement. To return to the Arrangement, just click on the red square.

• When 'Record' is activated, it works like described above, only that the changes made in Session view are not temprorary but get recorded - thus overwriting the according Arrange tracks.
Btw. the 'Overwrite' button is of importance for MIDI clips only.

Hope that helps.

[Ben [Camel Audio]]

Hi dr wackler,

Thanks very much!

That's a more elegant solution than I just worked out - which was to turn legato on, and copy the part out to each row on the session view, and then trigger as usual.

Live looks pretty cool, I must say. I'm tempted to adopt it as my main host, rather than use Nuendo. We shall see...

Anyway, thanks again!

Ben

[auxbuss]

Ben,

I think that you'll find that Live 4 beats SX/Nuendo hands-down for composition.

[meister eder]

Live looks pretty cool, I must say. I'm tempted to adopt it as my main host, rather than use Nuendo. We shall see...

Without having made anything that could be called a decision, I find myself already in the process of gradually switching from Logic to Live - and I've been using Logic for more than 15 years (consider me Sascha Franck's twin brother when it comes to Logic addiction)!
Just,.... arranging is such a breeze in Live4!

[DHR53]

I thought you were missing all those midi capabilities that Logic has? :lol:Having just upgraded to Logic Pro... (one more time) I find that the way Logic manages the cpu with my new Dual G5 is a pretty compelling reason to use it! Live is great for creativity, and I think it would be easy to adopt as a main host... but it does not manage the cpu (on my G5) like Logic does... Seems like in Logic, you can just pile on the plugs and instruments, and the program just keeps on dividing it up between the cpus... Live, does have the capability to keep recording midi tracks as audio though, but it's sort of a pain to switch around the tracks between monitoring, playback and recording... I wish it used dual processor architecture...