Non-guitar effects for guitar signal?

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crumbledfingers
KVRer
17 posts since 14 Aug, 2010

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:43 am

I'm creating a looper on a MacBook, and my main instrument will be the guitar, but I don't want it to sound too guitar-like. In other words, I'm more interested in making interesting textures and having a varied tonal vocabulary at my disposal than replicating any pedal or amp. So, I think it would be fun to compile a set of effects plugins (preferably ones that work on OSX) that aren't made for guitar, but would sound cool applied to a direct guitar signal or as part of a chain.

For example, I don't know if this is true or not, but I've always wondered if a waveshaper would be a cool alternative to yet another Fuzz Face clone plugin, since you don't normally get that kind of distortion flexibility out of a pedal. Wouldn't sound anything like typical professional guitar tone, but that's kind of the point. Or a transient shaper, instead of a compressor. Or some kind of dynamic EQ/filter made for synths, applied to guitar. Etc. etc. etc.

Any ideas?

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donkey tugger
Boss Lovin' DR
6465 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: Non-guitar effects for guitar signal?

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:47 am

Filters that you can drive into self-oscillation are absolutely marvellous on guitar - like a wah-wah on steroids. :hihi: All kinds of crazy feedback style effects and drone madness can be had. I like the plug n mix 'moogy' filter myself.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
57273 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Non-guitar effects for guitar signal?

Post Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:56 am

try something similar to dblue glitch, can get some nice bits going.
although, the actual answer to the question is "try anything you can get your hands on".
if you're looking for something original, that's where you'll find it.

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audiojunkie
KVRAF
2942 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah

Re: Non-guitar effects for guitar signal?

Post Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:17 pm

Preface to my comments below: I know that my recommendation is a guitar-specific environment, and not a specifically non-guitar effect, but bear with me and read Craig Anderton's full review before passing judgement. :)

AXIOM
This is not your average amp sim. It’s a dual-channel (parallel) multieffects based on Blue Cat’s Destructor plug-in, but places it in an effects-laden enviroment. In a nod to their Patchwork plug-in, each channel can also load VST/AU/VST3 plug-ins at the input and output, as well as in effects chains within each path.
Let’s establish at the outset that Axiom’s target demographic is probably the guitarist who likes sound design. It’s not plug-and-play so much as plug, go into a super-cool rabbit hole, play, and then return with sounds that are very popular in Alpha Centauri’s movie industry.
Blue Cat Audio's Axiom is exactly what you are looking for. I'm interested in the same things. Check the two links out:

Blue Cat Audio's Web Page for Axiom:
https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_Axiom/

The Link to Craig Anderton's Review of Axiom:
viewtopic.php?p=7510982#p7510982
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telecode
KVRAF
1523 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Re: Non-guitar effects for guitar signal?

Post Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:08 pm

If you have access to NI Guitar Rig .. you can get some really interesting sounds out of it that sound more like a synth instead of electric guitar. Lots of LFOs, filters, and the ability to do really weird stuff like combine different amps or control room settings and combine them in a split of crossover setup. if you try it, try control room direct mics, delays and reverse reverbs w/ filters.

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... son-chart/

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eluherlu
KVRist
136 posts since 13 Aug, 2017

Re: Non-guitar effects for guitar signal?

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:57 am

IZotope Vocal Synth 2.. Interesting guitar sounds from tweaking the presets

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KVRian
603 posts since 4 Oct, 2018

Re: Non-guitar effects for guitar signal?

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:09 am

If it's mostly not going to sound like a guitar, there's no point to use a guitar at all. It has its drawbacks - short notes, same envelope always (fast and loud attack that quickly drops then slowly fades), etc. Just use any beep source in your PC - a noise oscillator for example, where you have full control over volume and note length, and the sound itself will be modified by effects - beyond recognition.

But if you absolutely must use a guitar - the most basic places to start are flanger/phaser and delay. This could give you guitar++ sounds, instead of something that sounds like a brain fart.

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KVRian
603 posts since 4 Oct, 2018

Re: Non-guitar effects for guitar signal?

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:13 am

Or run it through VCV Rack. Plenty of modules to choose from, and most are free.

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Forgotten
KVRAF
7583 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: Non-guitar effects for guitar signal?

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:28 am

Do you have any synth plugins that allow you to use an external input? You can run a guitar through it and automate any exposed parameters that affect the external signal path.

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