New Song from me (electro pop) New Version. Opinions appreciated.

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an-electric-heart
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1983 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

Post Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:17 pm

New version. I still need to do a bit more to the breakdown, but it's very close now.

https://soundcloud.com/anelectricheartmusic/gravity

And the previous version. The biggest difference in the mix isn't really apparent until the chorus.

https://soundcloud.com/anelectricheartm ... ty-new-mix

Cheers! :tu:
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an-electric-heart
KVRAF
1983 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

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Post Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:30 pm

Bump for updated version. :phones:

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wagtunes
KVRAF
17925 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

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Post Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:55 pm

I don't know man. Sounds great to me. But, I guess when you're a perfectionist. Anyway, nice 80s stuff here. Very well done.

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Karma_tba
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1100 posts since 12 Aug, 2004

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Post Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:15 pm

Not my cup of pee..... I'm sure if it's pushed to the right demographic it would be a slammer.

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an-electric-heart
KVRAF
1983 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

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Post Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:51 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:55 pm
I don't know man. Sounds great to me. But, I guess when you're a perfectionist. Anyway, nice 80s stuff here. Very well done.
Interesting you should say that. I truly believe the first hurdle when getting into music production is learning not to be a perfectionist (I was unproductive for years). I truly believe that it's better to practice "finishing things in a timely fashion", rather than shooting for perfection. It takes me about three months to make a song, that sounds like a long time, but I only work on it about 3 hours a week. I work full time, and I'm also a boxer/boxing coach, so I'm in the gym a lot too. :tu:

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Benedict
KVRAF
3216 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Gold Coast Australia

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Post Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:20 pm

I like where you are going but it is muddy in the mix, esp with the vocals.
Happy to help - maybe as a Mix Walkthrough video?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... mXIauoJraq
:-)

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an-electric-heart
KVRAF
1983 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

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Post Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:36 am

Benedict wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:20 pm
I like where you are going but it is muddy in the mix, esp with the vocals.
Happy to help - maybe as a Mix Walkthrough video?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... mXIauoJraq
:-)
It's a bit hard with this one, the entire music/backing track is "baked", I had to render it out, and then do the vocals in another session (also, I use fL, so exporting stems is also kind of tricky compared to normal multitrack DAW), so it's not possible to remix... well, not "not possible", but a major operation. In the context of the album that this track will be on, this is not a high-light track... so it's close enough. Interesting you say "muddy", I normally equate "muddy" to "too bassy", but I guess you mean it's a bit cluttered... and yeah, it is... but it's close enough. I've made minor changes since the version above. Cheers! :tu:
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plexuss
KVRAF
3565 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

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Post Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:59 am

It's way too loud in that transients are crushed and I have a feeling there is a lot of haze caused by ISPs and muffled tracks. I think it's clarity and polish. Don't be afraid to lower loudness to bring back transients.

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Frantz
KVRAF
5267 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York

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Post Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:21 pm

Good song as usual. :tu:

There are major clarity issues with the mix. It sounds like a second generation cassette copy. Even if it is a hassle, I think it is worth unfreezing the tracks to eliminate clipping or other issues. Also that snare is huge and is consuming a lot of space in the mix.

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an-electric-heart
KVRAF
1983 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

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Post Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:57 pm

Alright, cheers guys. I'll get back into "music" session and see what I can do to tidy it up a bit.

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Bansaw
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861 posts since 19 Aug, 2008

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Post Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:11 pm

I love your stuff, I'm subscribed to you on Soundcloud as you know.
Your voice was getting lost in the mix.
@2:28 thats a long and slow HP filter sweep which endures until 3:06. I dont think I've heard one that long, where the low end went away for that amount of time.
@3:41 liked the unique ending.
Loved the echoed "don't blink, don't blink", "down down down". You use echoing really well.
imho I think the chorus should perhaps stand out more in terms of energy, or in terms of perhaps being a few semitones higher compared to the verse to lift it up a bit.
Having said all that,... I hope my retro stuff gets as good as yours soon!

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an-electric-heart
KVRAF
1983 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

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Post Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:19 pm

Alright, try this new version... but now that I've started tampering with things it needs more work.

https://soundcloud.com/anelectricheartm ... ty-new-mix

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FlyingNoodle
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78 posts since 2 Mar, 2017 from Wales, UK

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Post Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:41 am

I like your song and vocals. You've captured the energy, vibe and arrangement of the genre. And yeah, lol when you start tampering at this stage it's dangerous. During my fresh ears first listen, the only thing that stood out as "confusing" the focus is during the intro 00:19 when you introduce your vocal and tambourines. You want undivided attention at that point on your vocals (you know that already as it's crutial in the build up to the first chorus) but the tambourines are distracting, but also part of that buildup so if you take them out then.... what do you put there or do you add them towards the end of the bar only?
I've gone through some of your soundcloud tracks even from years back and if anything your mix production has consistency. The only thing I'd say about the current track is it sounds a little "boxy" maybe in the 350-500Hz range, if you take some of that out it'll brighten the tops and fatten the bass, so you may also need to roll off the bass a little more.
Other than that seems polished and you're ready for the next project :D

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an-electric-heart
KVRAF
1983 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

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Post Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:44 pm

Cheers again guys. Last night I did take the time to export all the separate parts from the "music" session, I was then able to mix the music with the vocals, and it's already sounding much better that the version above. I gated the kick and snare, they've got quite long tails, I scooped the kick out a lot, I've removed a lot of reverb from the instruments, and I've sculpted the low end of the bass synth to fit better, basically I've lost a fair bit of the "sub bass" end and boosted around 200hz... you'll hear it soon. :tu:

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an-electric-heart
KVRAF
1983 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand

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Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:34 am

Bump for new mix, it's in the O.P. Ta.

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