KVR Audio

mumpcake · Post by **mumpcake** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:30 am

For those who think that DAW is left out.

Kypresso · Post by **Kypresso** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:00 am

Its more that Project 5 left me.

kb420 · Post by **kb420** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:24 pm

Kypresso wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:00 am Its more that Project 5 left me.

Agreed. Cakewalk stopped supporting and upgrading P5 long before Cakewalk completely went under. I'm surprised ABSOLUTELY NO ONE took over the code.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:03 am

kb420 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:24 pm
Kypresso wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:00 am Its more that Project 5 left me.
Agreed. Cakewalk stopped supporting and upgrading P5 long before Cakewalk completely went under. I'm surprised ABSOLUTELY NO ONE took over the code.

They integrated some of its features into later sonar versions (??) and repackaged the plugins as “new features” for Sonar upgrades.

I think everything from Project 5 put into Sonar eventually was abandoned as 32-bit code they didn’t bother rewriting as 64-bit. Annoying, and shows just how insincere their bundling was; it was all to sell upgrades, not make Sonar better. This is one reason I stopped buying Cakewalk products (yes, I own Project 5; both versions).

Steve Bolivar · Post by **Steve Bolivar** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:27 pm

Does anyone know the company Cakewalk partnered with for the Spectral Transformer plugin? Is it still available in a modern VST64 form?

veryfft · Post by **veryfft** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:06 pm

Steve Bolivar wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:27 pm Does anyone know the company Cakewalk partnered with for the Spectral Transformer plugin? Is it still available in a modern VST64 form?

It's a good question and it sent me through some very interesting work. I am speculating, but I think the path leads through http://www.composersdesktop.com/

There are links from there to software projects there that could be of interest. Their programming lead has a personal and project site, too, with performance examples.
http://www.trevorwishart.co.uk/

toonertik · Post by **toonertik** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:17 pm

yes.. you beat me to it... I still have and occasionally use P5, so just loaded it to see...

Phase vocoder effects licenced from composer desktop
Effects design by Trevor
Additional elements, realtime coding and DXi implementation Richard Dobson.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:26 pm

It didn't have automation. Just like those older versions of Sonar.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:01 pm

Igro wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:26 pm It didn't have automation. Just like those older versions of Sonar.

All versions of Sonar had automation.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:55 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:01 pm
Igro wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:26 pm It didn't have automation. Just like those older versions of Sonar.
All versions of Sonar had automation.

Right. I think i confused it with the version that was before the Sonar. I still got a minty and nicely smelling original disk version on my shelf.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:58 pm

I see a 'why you left Pro24' thread coming soon....

Steve Bolivar · Post by **Steve Bolivar** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:41 pm

veryfft wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:06 pm
Steve Bolivar wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:27 pm Does anyone know the company Cakewalk partnered with for the Spectral Transformer plugin? Is it still available in a modern VST64 form?
It's a good question and it sent me through some very interesting work. I am speculating, but I think the path leads through http://www.composersdesktop.com/

There are links from there to software projects there that could be of interest. Their programming lead has a personal and project site, too, with performance examples.
http://www.trevorwishart.co.uk/

Yes, that would explain the "CDP" logo on the plugin.
Thanks for the lead.

wetdentist · Post by **wetdentist** » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:11 pm

i was a big user of P5 in the mid oughties, but then it got discontinued... it would've been nice if Cakewalk would've made it 64 bit & multi-core aware before dropping it, but such is life.

mumpcake · Post by **mumpcake** » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:49 pm

Yes, I only left it a couple of years ago when I got tired of the memory limitations and when companies started to phase out 32 bit versions.

I always wondered if Nick Haddad or Jesse Jost ever had left copies of the code on their personal machines and had ever tried to recompile for 64 bit.

Calenberger · Post by **Calenberger** » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:36 am

Never entered Projekt 5...

Why you left Project 5?