KVR Audio

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:47 am

https://www.musicradar.com/news/use-abl ... or-90-days

https://www.ableton.com/en/trial/

Well, shieeet

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:50 am

awesome! ty

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:53 am

the market's gonna get competitive now everyone's stuck in their bedrooms

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:56 am

Kinh wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:53 am the market's gonna get competitive now everyone's stuck in their bedrooms

I'm atually pissed off because looking at Twitter or FB one would think everyone's bored at home and just do music, whereas in my case I work more because getting things done remotely takes more time & there's more things to do; and while at "home" I also need to spend more time with my kids...

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:39 pm

You'll need 90 days to learn to appreciate it if you haven't used it before. I highly recommend YouTube and the user's guide before you start. It's clever, but different, and not always obvious. Putting it mildly.

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:17 am

jonljacobi wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:39 pm You'll need 90 days to learn appreciate it if you haven't used it before. I highly recommend YouTube and the user's guide before you start. It's clever, but different, and not always obvious. Putting it mildly.

90 days? You can learn it in 1 day. It has tutorial demos and a display in the left bottom corner explaining what each thing is. When I got mine the demo was just 30 days. The 90 days is just to entice customers.

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:47 am

Learn to appreciate it. If you learned all of Live in one day, my hat’s off to you. I’m still learning new stuff five years in. Regardless, I was exaggerating for effect. Largely because so many users give it a shot and don’t find things are as they are with other DAWs and either give up or start complaining.

In other words, I was recommending diligence and patience and hinting that the rewards would be substantial. We’re not all such quick students.

melomood · Post by **melomood** » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:55 am

I still occasionally have to explain to someone how dead easy it is to move pieces of audio & midi around in arrangement view without needing a scissor tool

Ghostwave · Post by **Ghostwave** » Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:51 am

antic604 wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:56 am I'm atually pissed off because looking at Twitter or FB one would think everyone's bored at home and just do music, whereas in my case I work more because getting things done remotely takes more time & there's more things to do; and while at "home" I also need to spend more time with my kids...

I'm in the same situation. Good luck you!

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:56 am

Ghostwave wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:51 am
antic604 wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:56 am I'm atually pissed off because looking at Twitter or FB one would think everyone's bored at home and just do music, whereas in my case I work more because getting things done remotely takes more time & there's more things to do; and while at "home" I also need to spend more time with my kids...
I'm in the same situation. Good luck you!

Well, hang on tight & be safe

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:39 pm

melomood wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:55 am I still occasionally have to explain to someone how dead easy it is to move pieces of audio & midi around in arrangement view without needing a scissor tool

It took me a long time to become proficient (such as I am) with Live. My decades with the "classic" DAWs kept me thinking in other directions. I'm hardly saying that Live is perfect, but I now go to other DAWs and a lot of stuff seems clunky and over-engineered.

But my main point is that new users really need to take a good look at how things are done. A cursory inspection will leave you thinking that it can't do a lot of stuff that it actually can.

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:33 pm

Some helpful links:

https://learningmusic.ableton.com/

https://learningsynths.ableton.com/

https://www.ableton.com/en/live/learn-live/

https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/live-concepts/

https://www.ableton.com/en/help/

https://www.ableton.com/en/one-thing/

https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/categories/tutorials/

https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/categories/loop/

Live's manual is actually really good and worth reading.

melomood · Post by **melomood** » Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:18 pm

jonljacobi wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:39 pm
melomood wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:55 am I still occasionally have to explain to someone how dead easy it is to move pieces of audio & midi around in arrangement view without needing a scissor tool
It took me a long time to become proficient (such as I am) with Live. My decades with the "classic" DAWs kept me thinking in other directions. I'm hardly saying that Live is perfect, but I now go to other DAWs and a lot of stuff seems clunky and over-engineered.

But my main point is that new users really need to take a good look at how things are done. A cursory inspection will leave you thinking that it can't do a lot of stuff that it actually can.

Absolutely. It can do a lot of the stuff and go a step further with some
Definitely watch some videos. Go down that ableton youtube rabbit hole for a few hours
you'll be surprised

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:23 am

This was the video that really opened my eyes.

Not so much what it covered, though after seeing all the complaints about the lack of comping this surprised the heck out of me; but that there was so much under the hood if you just took the time to look.

melomood · Post by **melomood** » Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:49 am

and of course any bit of that can be copy/pasted to clips,drum rack pads,sampler & simpler when you're done recording too

Live 10 Suite demo free to use for 90 days