Where to start for Jazz
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 135 posts since 4 Apr, 2018
I'm not a good pianist or guitarist.Most of the stuff that I make are made in my DAW piano roll.And I mostly make electronic music.But I've great zeal for learning new stuff.I know basics of chords & stuffs.Now I want to learn about jazz music theory and how to utilise it.But I don't know where to start & what sort of materials to look out for further reading & watching
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
I would start with learning some typical chord progressions for jazz using 7ths.
For example, ii-V-I is very common, so you could play in C:
Dm-G-C-C
The 7ths in this case are:
Dm7 - G7 - C Maj7 - C Maj7
However, playing them straight will not sound like jazz - almost everything in jazz is played with swing. Listen to some various jazz pieces, and play this progression with the same rhythm.
Once you’ve got the accompaniment down, then you can learn to improvise. Playing these chords with the left hand can be difficult, so you can play them as rootless, or without the 5th. Be careful of your voice leading so that the inversions you choose keep the left hand movement to a minimum.
To learn improvisation, start with something like a pentatonic blues scale (minor pentatonic with an added flat 5th).
That should get you started.
For example, ii-V-I is very common, so you could play in C:
Dm-G-C-C
The 7ths in this case are:
Dm7 - G7 - C Maj7 - C Maj7
However, playing them straight will not sound like jazz - almost everything in jazz is played with swing. Listen to some various jazz pieces, and play this progression with the same rhythm.
Once you’ve got the accompaniment down, then you can learn to improvise. Playing these chords with the left hand can be difficult, so you can play them as rootless, or without the 5th. Be careful of your voice leading so that the inversions you choose keep the left hand movement to a minimum.
To learn improvisation, start with something like a pentatonic blues scale (minor pentatonic with an added flat 5th).
That should get you started.
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- KVRian
- 1020 posts since 4 Jun, 2006
To add to Forgotten's advice, I would suggest a starting point might be, to take some time out to listen to some Jazz. The term Jazz, covers a wide scope. For example, I like Bebop, Hard Bop, and free Jazz, but dislike Fusion, and while I don't dislike it, I seldom listen to big band swing, preferring in my case, the likes of Charles Mingus and Kenny Burrell.
Some artist's figured in more than one Jazz movement throughout their career; Coltrane for example, moved through Bebop, Hard Bop, and then in the sixties, free Jazz.
Some artist's figured in more than one Jazz movement throughout their career; Coltrane for example, moved through Bebop, Hard Bop, and then in the sixties, free Jazz.
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12630 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
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- KVRian
- 1020 posts since 4 Jun, 2006
That was hilarious. I liked this one:
Louis Balfour: "What are you going to play for us today, Jackson?"
Jackson Jeffery Jackson: "Trumpet."
Louis Balfour: "No . . . er . . . what tune?"
Jackson Jeffery Jackson: "Tune . . . ? This is jazz!"
Louis Balfour: "What are you going to play for us today, Jackson?"
Jackson Jeffery Jackson: "Trumpet."
Louis Balfour: "No . . . er . . . what tune?"
Jackson Jeffery Jackson: "Tune . . . ? This is jazz!"
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 135 posts since 4 Apr, 2018
Can you give a chronological order of things to be learned in jazz pleaseForgotten wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:49 pm I would start with learning some typical chord progressions for jazz using 7ths.
For example, ii-V-I is very common, so you could play in C:
Dm-G-C-C
The 7ths in this case are:
Dm7 - G7 - C Maj7 - C Maj7
However, playing them straight will not sound like jazz - almost everything in jazz is played with swing. Listen to some various jazz pieces, and play this progression with the same rhythm.
Once you’ve got the accompaniment down, then you can learn to improvise. Playing these chords with the left hand can be difficult, so you can play them as rootless, or without the 5th. Be careful of your voice leading so that the inversions you choose keep the left hand movement to a minimum.
To learn improvisation, start with something like a pentatonic blues scale (minor pentatonic with an added flat 5th).
That should get you started.
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- KVRist
- 423 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Berlin
I can‘t recommend this Book enough:
https://www.halleonard.com/product/3120 ... -real-book
Jazz theory in a nutshell with a lot of Good advice how to play
https://www.halleonard.com/product/3120 ... -real-book
Jazz theory in a nutshell with a lot of Good advice how to play
my music:
soundcloud.com/septimon-band
blend.io/septimon
soundcloud.com/septimon-band
blend.io/septimon
- KVRAF
- 7137 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Start by understanding what makes you enjoy jazz.
- KVRAF
- 4828 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
+1
Deeply study (listen, sing, copy, transcribe) the attributes (sound, rhythm, melody, harmony, form) of specific jazz pieces you love.
That will help you clarify what you need to learn for your own music.
F E E D
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F L O W
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- KVRist
- 423 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Berlin
first thing i would suggest is understanding the concept of modes.
my music:
soundcloud.com/septimon-band
blend.io/septimon
soundcloud.com/septimon-band
blend.io/septimon
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 135 posts since 4 Apr, 2018
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
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- KVRist
- 423 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Berlin
Get the book i mentioned above. (How to play from a realbook“ It has a very good structure.
my music:
soundcloud.com/septimon-band
blend.io/septimon
soundcloud.com/septimon-band
blend.io/septimon