Any way to have midi clips ignore tempo in Ableton

[oboemaroni]

This is an odd request, but is anyone aware of a way to make MIDI clips ignore the tempo in Ableton, similar to what happens with audio clips if you turn off warping?

[antic604]

This is an odd request, but is anyone aware of a way to make MIDI clips ignore the tempo in Ableton, similar to what happens with audio clips if you turn off warping?

You can stretch MIDI clips to go gradually off-grid, if that is what you mean:

[oboemaroni]

Thanks but that's not quite what I'm looking for - it's a bit tricky to explain but I recorded midi along to some freely improvised audio, ignoring the click and tempo entirely. I then found a way to build a tempo map in Cakewalk though, which I've now imported into Ableton. So now I have a click track which matches the audio (if I turn off warping that is) but whenever I bring in one of the midi tracks I recorded it's messed up because of the new tempo. I could bounce the midi to audio I suppose but I may want to edit notes down the line...

[antic604]

Thanks but that's not quite what I'm looking for - it's a bit tricky to explain but I recorded midi along to some freely improvised audio, ignoring the click and tempo entirely. I then found a way to build a tempo map in Cakewalk though, which I've now imported into Ableton. So now I have a click track which matches the audio (if I turn off warping that is) but whenever I bring in one of the midi tracks I recorded it's messed up because of the new tempo. I could bounce the midi to audio I suppose but I may want to edit notes down the line...

Oh, then just automate Live's tempo according to the (simplified) tempo map from Cakewalk.

[oboemaroni]

Yes got that far but the problem is it throws my MIDI off, as that was recorded at another tempo (probably 120bpm) before I had the tempo map. If there was just a warp on/off for MIDI like there is for audio that would do it. But I think there probably isn't...

[antic604]

Yes got that far but the problem is it throws my MIDI off, as that was recorded at another tempo (probably 120bpm) before I had the tempo map. If there was just a warp on/off for MIDI like there is for audio that would do it. But I think there probably isn't...

But if you'd split the recording in segments and warped them to fit into grid, then they'd all be in one tempo, just some parts would play faster, others slower.