I just purchased a Antelope Discrete 8 and it came with a license for Bitwig Studio. Also came with a modeling microphone too which is neat. I haven't installed or registered the Bitwig Stuido license they gave me yet. I mainly do hard rock and metal. After watching videos it looks like Bitwig Studio is more aimed at electronic music in the way the work flow is set up. It sort of reminds me of FL Studio with the arranger and patterns.
Has anybody here gone from Cubase to Bitwig? I'm pretty used to Cubase since it has been my main host since 2005 but I have learned a couple other hosts and became somewhat proficient with them. I'm debating just selling the license since it may end up being counter productive to learn. Although if it ends up being easier to work in than Cubase it may be worth it.
Anybody Switch To Bitwig Studio From Cubase?
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- KVRian
- 836 posts since 12 Aug, 2005
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- KVRAF
- 4333 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
Cubase has been my primary DAW for around 15 years now. I tried Bitwig version 2 (not the most recent version 3) but the workflow didn't really sit well with me; I liked Cubase's focus on the "arrangement screen" (this is Cubase 6.5) and the "scene view" stuff from Bitwig didn't really mean much to me. I like Cubase's keyboard shortcuts for navigating the arrangement page which Bitwig seemed to lack or at least seemed less well-developed. Now, in no way do I claim to be an expert with Bitwig, and maybe I didn't give it a chance or didn't investigate things closely enough, and maybe it can actually do the things I wanted it to. But anyways, my 2c.
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- KVRAF
- 12105 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
I am a Bitwig user and enthusiast, but If you are primarily working with Live instruments like guitars I would stick to Cubase as a primary DAW. Bitwig is very easy to use and very fast, but still lacks the sort of tools I expect when recording live audio, especially advanced comping. If you want something simpler than Cubase but with all the tools for recording, production and mastering try Studio One (I switched from Cubase to Studio one as I found Cubase just got too complicated and cluttered).
Bitwig isn't like FL Studio, its sort of a cross between Ableton Live and a traditional DAW like Cubase (with a Modular environment like Reaktor Blocks built in and a 'unified' modulation system to boot!).
What Bitwig Licence di you get? Its probably just a light version if it was free (8 or 16?) so wont be worth much to sell, if thats the case just run it and try it, you can make things in it and then export the mix/stems and use it in Cubase! Alternatively download and try the demo of the full current version from bitwig.com and you still have your licence to sell if you dont like it!
Bitwig isn't like FL Studio, its sort of a cross between Ableton Live and a traditional DAW like Cubase (with a Modular environment like Reaktor Blocks built in and a 'unified' modulation system to boot!).
What Bitwig Licence di you get? Its probably just a light version if it was free (8 or 16?) so wont be worth much to sell, if thats the case just run it and try it, you can make things in it and then export the mix/stems and use it in Cubase! Alternatively download and try the demo of the full current version from bitwig.com and you still have your licence to sell if you dont like it!
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
As Bitwig user, my advice is stick with Cubase! You got full version of Bitwig, you can get at least half asking price, but probably more, just don’t activate it.
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Like @SLiC and @PassingBye said: for linear music making focused mostly on recording external sources stick to Cubase or try Studio One. Bitwig's awesome, but focused more on - i.e. it has tools & workflow beneficial to - electronic, experimental, generative music.
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- KVRAF
- 3017 posts since 8 Jun, 2018
even cubase can be used for electronic, experimental music... lot of mad hatter effect plugins.. so also for ITB it is great DAW. it is how you use it. even with comping.
and i like the way cubase works. personal opinion.
and i like the way cubase works. personal opinion.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
I own Cubase 10.5 - Studio One Pro 4 and I also have a copy of Bitwig 8 track (not installed) and when I get the urge to make some music I fire up Cubase, dont know why, but there it is.
With regard to exporting stems from Bitwig into Cubase you have to bear in mind that if it is the 8 or 16 track version Bitwig only allow them to be exported in 16 bit.
If you fancy a go at pattern based stuff get hold of a copy of Ableton Live 10 Lite and export the stems from that as they allow export in any bit rate you want.
With regard to exporting stems from Bitwig into Cubase you have to bear in mind that if it is the 8 or 16 track version Bitwig only allow them to be exported in 16 bit.
If you fancy a go at pattern based stuff get hold of a copy of Ableton Live 10 Lite and export the stems from that as they allow export in any bit rate you want.
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- KVRist
- 136 posts since 10 Sep, 2015
Why should you switch? Both are DAW's, but the "workflow" is different. So - Why not use both?
Personally I use Bitwig for fast "dabbling" in musical idea's. It's a platform that (in my personal opinion) is great for quickly trying out combinations and do some deeper sound design. It a "creation" platform.
Once those idea's culminate into a more solid project, I most times switch to Cubase at a stage. Cubase is still the best platform to mix everything into a semi-final product ready for mastering. Cubase is also very useful at the final mastering stage (although I'm not a master at mastering by any means), although you can also use WaveLab (light version) for that kind of things.
So there you have it... Both DAW's are strong in a certain aspect of song/music creation. Both (again in my humble opinion) compliment each other, so the combination of those two becomes very powerful.
Personally I use Bitwig for fast "dabbling" in musical idea's. It's a platform that (in my personal opinion) is great for quickly trying out combinations and do some deeper sound design. It a "creation" platform.
Once those idea's culminate into a more solid project, I most times switch to Cubase at a stage. Cubase is still the best platform to mix everything into a semi-final product ready for mastering. Cubase is also very useful at the final mastering stage (although I'm not a master at mastering by any means), although you can also use WaveLab (light version) for that kind of things.
So there you have it... Both DAW's are strong in a certain aspect of song/music creation. Both (again in my humble opinion) compliment each other, so the combination of those two becomes very powerful.
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excuse me please excuse me please https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=427648 - KVRAF
- 1631 posts since 10 Oct, 2018
You can also try the demo, I assume. Keep the license clean for the time being.
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- KVRian
- 751 posts since 9 Mar, 2001
Yes!
I Love Bitwig (still learning) but I know Cubase inside out after 20 years of using it.
Cubase will stay for some time for recording live instruments but for creating new electronic based music..
Bitwig is an instrument!
Cubase will never be that..
I Love Bitwig (still learning) but I know Cubase inside out after 20 years of using it.
Cubase will stay for some time for recording live instruments but for creating new electronic based music..
Bitwig is an instrument!
Cubase will never be that..
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- KVRAF
- 12105 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Yes, Bitwig is an instrument and a modular creation platform and a live clip launcher/sampler....the DAW bit is just thrown in for good measure 
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 836 posts since 12 Aug, 2005
Thanks for the input everybody. It is advertised as a Bitwig Studio license so the big one. I’m not sure if it is NFR or not which is why I’m holding off registering. And true I could fire up the demo but from the sounds of it Cubase will continue to be my choice. I’ve also used Studio One but still prefer Cubase.
And from what I’m getting Bitwig for live audio sounds like an after thought. I will think in it a bit. It may actually be useful for hip hop though which I record once and awhile. But again mostly hard rock and metal.
And from what I’m getting Bitwig for live audio sounds like an after thought. I will think in it a bit. It may actually be useful for hip hop though which I record once and awhile. But again mostly hard rock and metal.
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Just looked at their website and it seems indeed it's a full v3 version! That's some freebiemonkeymanx wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:43 pmIt is advertised as a Bitwig Studio license so the big one.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 836 posts since 12 Aug, 2005
Yea not too shabby. I've been looking at the Antelope Discrete line and then this deal popped up. I was actually more interested in the included Edge Solo microphone which seems to do well in shoot outs. The Bitwig license was just icing the on cake.