Is Halion 6 better overall value than Omnisphere 2.6?

[damayor]

Omnisphere can do it all except acoustic stuff then again you can sample.your own acoustic sounds and samples. Wont be the best but there are some expansions that are acoustic stuff for Omnisphere. If i was you I would get Omnisphere first then get halion later and you can always get acoustic bread and butter soinds in kontakt libraries with is better then halion anyways.

[BBFG#]

Oh. In the terms of "value"!
HALion.
To get close to the same range of instruments in Omnisphere, you'll also have to buy Trilian, Keyscape and Stylus. And it will still run short of what you get from HALion.

Sound will always be subjective, but again, once you know the Persing method, you'll never unhear it.

[zvenx]

I am curious to know which of the spectrasonic instruments u use. For sure nothing in the halion library even comes close to the quality of the sampling done in keyscape and Trilian.
Rsp

[BBFG#]

I will also warn you that if you do decide on Spectrasonics, never admit it online.
Or the herd will descend upon you for having any opinion that differs from their acceptable one.

[wagtunes]

I am curious to know which of the spectrasonic instruments u use. For sure nothing in the halion library even comes close to the quality of the sampling done in keyscape and Trilian.
Rsp

And therein lies the problem. With just Omnisphere, which is the only thing by Spectrasonics that I own, you are missing a large chunk of sounds needed for a number of genres, thus making Keyscape and Trilian almost necessities to purchase.

So now you're talking about something like $1200.

And they're stuff NEVER goes on sale.

That's a hell of a lot of money to cover Piano, Bass and basic synth and atmospheric stuff.

That same $1200 gets me

Pianoteq - $150
MODO Bass - $200
MODO Drums - $200

And $650 left over for several top of the line synths. Hell, you could even get Omnisphere and still have $150 left over for any one of a number of top analog emulations if that's what you want.

And the above items DO go on sale so you can get them much cheaper. I spent $150 for MODO Bass and $150 for MODO Drums. That's a $100 savings.

Value wise, Spectrasonics is not the best game in town.

[zvenx]

I just did one take, foolishness.
one track electric bass trillian vs halion.
one track acoustic bass trilian vs halion.
Guess which is which. (yes I know they are named)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gjhf1sbt1p1d0 ... n.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2un51vxaa1j14 ... n.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6v79c8277x2gf ... c.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5jjld362iqds0 ... c.mp3?dl=0


rsp

[zvenx]

For synth I think omnisphere covers most.
Indeed for non synth bass and non synth keyboards if you are going spectrasonics way you would need trilian and keyscape.
However look at how many basses and 37 keyboards you get from those.
Pianoteq and modo bass doesn't even begin to come close, you would have to go high end Kontakt Library to come close and that will require you to buy a high end piano, a high end clav, a high end wurlitzer etc etc etc.

rsp

[zvenx]

I just did one take, foolishness.
one track electric bass trillian vs halion.
one track acoustic bass trilian vs halion.
Guess which is which. (yes I know they are named)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gjhf1sbt1p1d0 ... n.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2un51vxaa1j14 ... n.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6v79c8277x2gf ... c.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5jjld362iqds0 ... c.mp3?dl=0


rsp

Granted no where the same patch but I choose a synth brass from halion and a synth brass from omnisphere itself.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yri8im7erpnmu ... s.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8u2w7ccia2o6e ... s.mp3?dl=0



To me they aren't even playing in the same game.

ymmv
rsp

[BBFG#]

And you've almost doubled the price!

Thanks for proving that point.
Bang for buck, HALion on sale is such a better value than two Spectrasonics in the bush.

Another nice thing is that H6 allows you to use up to four separate controllers, each with 16 channels. And recorder.

[zvenx]

I guess it depends if you are judging quantity or quality..
and indeed quality is often subjective.

Like I said, I use omnisphere all the time... I, even as a SB user, Cubendo Daw etc, use Halion mostly for two clav patches.
Only the OP though can decide whether the cost is worth it for him.
Might as well get Sampletank 4 if quantity not quality is what matters most.

There is a reason why spectrasonics never needs to go on sale, can produce a new instrument every what, five years and still do well to expand and also give stuff back to the community.
ymmv
rsp

[BBFG#]

OP asked about value.
Sound is subjective, and both are of high quality. But one would be hard pressed not to find everything they need for almost any genre from H6.
It seems most recommendations for Omnisphere include "except" or other excuses for what is excluded.
So there's that.

[zvenx]

Apart from the title he also asked this:

" What I am wondering about the quality and comprehensiveness of Halion 6's included instruments vs Omnisphere? "

For which to me it is not even close.

You never did answer my what spectrasonics instruments do you own/use question.

Anyway we both give him our opinion, hope they both help him.
rsp

[BBFG#]

"tsk tsk", you just weren't paying attention to everything I posted.

[zvenx]

I will also warn you that if you do decide on Spectrasonics, never admit it online.
Or the herd will descend upon you for having any opinion that differs from their acceptable one.

And you've almost doubled the price!

Thanks for proving that point.
Bang for buck, HALion on sale is such a better value than two Spectrasonics in the bush.

Another nice thing is that H6 allows you to use up to four separate controllers, each with 16 channels. And recorder.

OP asked about value.
Sound is subjective, and both are of high quality. But one would be hard pressed not to find everything they need for almost any genre from H6.
It seems most recommendations for Omnisphere include "except" or other excuses for what is excluded.
So there's that.

"tsk tsk", you just weren't paying attention to everything I posted.

Even rereading it, I dont' see the answer.
rsp

[fmr]

Pianoteq and modo bass doesn't even begin to come close, you would have to go high end Kontakt Library to come close and that will require you to buy a high end piano, a high end clav, a high end wurlitzer etc etc etc.

Pianoteq beats ANY sampled piano library, no matter how expensive and how big it is. And the acoustic pianos in Keyscape (judging from the examples I heard) are really weak (medium quality, at most).

And the question is: "Is HALion 6 is "best overall value" than Omnisphere?"

Which I think was already answered. When you need to go up to $1.200 to balance something that you can get for less then $300, the answer is easy IMO. No matter how good your "perceived quality" is. Unless you think that HALion sucks so much as to be useless.

And again, this is highly subjective - you wrote that Pianoteq doesn't even come close to a sampled piano library, when IMO no sampled piano library comes close to Pianoteq