All About MIDI Polyphonic Expression (MPE)

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Whywhy wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:16 am What I would like to see in every mpe synth is a rise and fall lag.( Bitwig, Axoloti and others have this kind of modules).the pressure can really act like an envelope.
The problem with Mpe this day is how Mpe controllers are dealing with data, some send a : return value to zero at note off for pressure, other just before note on, other send nothing. Mpe is a standard not so standard-:). Standard need times to be establish...
Mpe synth company should spend more time with their smoothing algorithm, it can make a big change when performing.
It is relatively easy for synth developers to add note per channel support... the other deeper stuff with smoothing, lag, expression curves and so on require someone in that company to be into MPE cause it takes times to implement and understand what is needed.

The later stuff is why Bitwig's Grid is my favorite MPE synth... it is easy to put separate rise and fall on say pressure data... I can control the rate of rise and fall via velocity... I can use Timbre to control some aspect of Pressure. I can do unusual stuff with MPE and other modulators to create unique behaviors.

Some non MPE synths also keep pitchbend at whatever value it was at note off until the next note which affects that next note. So some synths even using multiple instances you cannot do MPE pitchslides. There are many peculiar behaviors that become evident when trying to do MPE expression... like as you mention how pressure behaves in different synths at note off. :hihi:

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Hen you use multiple instances w a selector you have to set them to be mono... should solve most issues.

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Hi while we are on the subject of MPE, do check out this cool new plugin Fluid pitch, which amazingly locks your pitch bend wheel to any particular scale you want and also does chord bending and Micro tuning using MPE upscale tech..
https://youtu.be/zhb1Z24d9XQ

 

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Fluid pitch is pretty interesting. Indian music really pushes MPE and pitchbend into some new territory.

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Here's a couple more MPE Tutorials! This one shows how to setup the ASM Hydrasynth for MPE input, and gives some examples on how to use it:
https://youtu.be/0V7U0qNkAF0

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This tutorial shows how to setup an external MPE synth in Logic, Live 11, Bitwig, and Cubase:
https://youtu.be/0IK3PwE2XwA

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This isn't MPE, but here's a pretty cool article about how MIDI was used in Pixar's new movie, Soul.

https://beforesandafters.com/2020/12/11 ... xars-soul/

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chalaby wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:48 pm This isn't MPE, but here's a pretty cool article about how MIDI was used in Pixar's new movie, Soul.

https://beforesandafters.com/2020/12/11 ... xars-soul/
This is the third time you've posted this link ...

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Hi
Its Fantastic your doing this.
I have Tracktions Waveform with Equator 2 using a Roli 49 Rise for studio only.
Come Post lockdownn I want to use my Equator2 live with both my CME Air 37 and 25
Im a Novice when it comes to Midi .All Im currently looking for is to bend notes up or down 2 or 3 semi tones as I do with my Harmonicas.This Ive discovered.
Im still trying to discover how to get the Modulation button to give me a simple Vibrato though.
Thanks
All best wishes

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I posted it to several forums because I thought it would be interesting to people that might not monitor all three.

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krishtan88 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:29 pm Hi while we are on the subject of MPE, do check out this cool new plugin Fluid pitch, which amazingly locks your pitch bend wheel to any particular scale you want.
https://youtu.be/zhb1Z24d9XQ
We thought, one key chord shots from the early 90s were lazy as sh¡t. And now we have chord transposer on a wheel. I guess we combine them and play whole song with only one key pressed and wheel turned up and down.

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Cool? Yes. World's first, as in the video title? No.

Unless it's over 2 years old.

Software features probably get reinvented all the time, so not saying they copied it.

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Sequential is adding MPE to the Prophet and OB 6.
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I wonder when we see first things about the mystic midi 2.0 in terms of expression.

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