I'm getting tired of my usual workflow and its starting to be a pain in the ass for me. In short, I want to find a new host. My present host(s) are N-track studio 4.0 and FL Studio. Here's my usual workflow:
1. Create sampled drum track in FL Studio, mix down to wav
2. Import wav file into N-track
3. Record bass, guitars, vocals into n-track (no synths, all live)
4. Go back into FL studio and tweak drum track, export to wav, import back into N-track (mulitple times until I'm satisfied)
5. Go back to FL Studio, add synths, samples, sound fx etc. etc. - export those as wav files and import into N-track
6. Mix all that down in N-track for final
What I do now works fine, but I'm getting really tired of switching between FL Studio and N-track. FL studio is great for doing the drum track ideas and adding the synths, but sucks for audio. N-track is great for recording my audio, but sucks for the midi stuff.
I want to be able to:
1.Create a sampled drum track (with ease) in one host
2.Add the live guitars, bass, and vocals in the same host
3.Tweak the drum track easily to mesh with the live recordings once they're completed
4.Add synths, strings, samples etc with ease as well
5.Be able to mix down easily, blah, blah, blah
My biggest concern is to be able to do everything in one host. Other factors - windows only, looking to spend about $150-200 (low I know, but I'm upgrading soundcard and computer as well), doing mostly rock/metal music (not sure if this makes a difference).
Throw out some ideas, i'm looking to start demoing soon. I'm posting this because I don't want to demo EVERYTHING and try to find something. Hopefully, with all the info I've given, people can give me a host to concentrate on. Thanks!
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t-willy
Trying to find the host with the most - for me
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
Orion Platinum or EXT.
Meet me in chat & I can sort out the deatils for both so you can try the demos really fast.
Later,
Meet me in chat & I can sort out the deatils for both so you can try the demos really fast.
Later,
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- KVRAF
- 3266 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from under the sun
you can use FL Studio as a VSTi (or DXi).
this wonderful possibility allows you to work in whatever host you want (as long as it has VSTi or DXi support, obviously) without switching from one to the other. FL Studio is then fully integrated and keeps all its features (playlist, mixing board, etc,).
all your datas are saved with the 'master' host project, you don't need to save a FL Studio project file.
this is how i usually work, with Sonar as 'master' host.
this wonderful possibility allows you to work in whatever host you want (as long as it has VSTi or DXi support, obviously) without switching from one to the other. FL Studio is then fully integrated and keeps all its features (playlist, mixing board, etc,).
all your datas are saved with the 'master' host project, you don't need to save a FL Studio project file.
this is how i usually work, with Sonar as 'master' host.
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- something special
- 8627 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama
audio in orion sucks.sickle666 wrote:Orion Platinum or EXT.
Meet me in chat & I can sort out the deatils for both so you can try the demos really fast.
Later,
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
Duh..but when eXT is loaded as a VSti you have a fairly decent count in & direct to track recording option..bluedad wrote:audio in orion sucks.sickle666 wrote:Orion Platinum or EXT.
Meet me in chat & I can sort out the deatils for both so you can try the demos really fast.
Later,
Of course that applies to any host you load it through.
Or you can just use it standalone.
Why you picking on me, Gary
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- something special
- 8627 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama
I've not tried it with ext..seems like that would be even more complicated.sickle666 wrote:
Duh..but when eXT is loaded as a VSti you have a fairly decent count in & direct to track recording option..
Of course that applies to any host you load it through.
Or you can just use it standalone.
Why you picking on me, Gary
I'm not picking on you! you just mentioned orion, which on its' own, audio sucks. I wish it didn't. but it does.
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- something special
- 8627 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama
and as bad as I hate to say it, but this sounds like a job for tracktion.
where's the puke emoticon?
I mean, tra-, er t-willey, if you're not gonna go cubase..
where's the puke emoticon?
I mean, tra-, er t-willey, if you're not gonna go cubase..
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Err, yes, why not use FL as a plug-in in N-track? Sorted.
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- KVRian
- 1256 posts since 22 Aug, 2003
Why both? I'd say eXT could stand up just as well on its own, without Orion Platinum (although I'm not an expert on either). If not, I'd be glad to hear what eXT is lacking that Orion or another sequencer has (that won't be added shortly in an update).sickle666 wrote:Orion Platinum or EXT.
Meet me in chat & I can sort out the deatils for both so you can try the demos really fast.
Later,
Seeing as he alread has FL Studio, maybe adding eXT to it would solve his audio problems?
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
Simple, man.Rellik wrote: Why both? I'd say eXT could stand up just as well on its own, without Orion Platinum (although I'm not an expert on either). If not, I'd be glad to hear what eXT is lacking that Orion or another sequencer has (that won't be added shortly in an update).
Seeing as he alread has FL Studio, maybe adding eXT to it would solve his audio problems?
He wants this:
Quick import of audio in conjunction of swift creation of drum/synth tracks. Orion sucks for audio as mentioned, but if he loads eXT within it, he still has all the native Orion instruments, AS WELL as BOTH sequencers, which will allow easy import of midi AND audio, so between them he can't go wrong.
Not to mention as he's a guitarist, using eXT as a custom made multi-FX chainer gives him a pretty damn nice option for his guitar tracks while still remaining native in the Orion Mixer.
so, nyah..
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
I do most of my work in MIDI in FLS. When I need audio or want to do something "really well", I use it with Sonar.
If Sonar's a bit pricey, you might check out Home Studio 2 (aka Home Studio 2004 version 2). Quite powerful for what it does, essentially a "Sonar Junior". http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/HomeStudio/default.asp - only hitch I can see right off-hand is W2K/XP/ME only (not 95, 98, or NT) but that's most likely because of the WDM audio driver interface. On the other hand, no nasty copy protection
(dongles, product activation, etc). Only $99 at MusiciansFriend.
Doug
If Sonar's a bit pricey, you might check out Home Studio 2 (aka Home Studio 2004 version 2). Quite powerful for what it does, essentially a "Sonar Junior". http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/HomeStudio/default.asp - only hitch I can see right off-hand is W2K/XP/ME only (not 95, 98, or NT) but that's most likely because of the WDM audio driver interface. On the other hand, no nasty copy protection
(dongles, product activation, etc). Only $99 at MusiciansFriend.Doug
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
not that I know, but if you're used to and relatively satisfied with midi work and drum work in FLStudio, I'd at least consider using it as a vst in Tracktion.
Tracktion excels at audio work, but is weak in midi work. There are also some real advantages for using something like FLS as a vst, rather than Rewire. Vst will preserve a project in FLS, Rewire won't do that for you. Vst allows multiple instances, there's just the one with Rewire.
Tracktion excels at audio work, but is weak in midi work. There are also some real advantages for using something like FLS as a vst, rather than Rewire. Vst will preserve a project in FLS, Rewire won't do that for you. Vst allows multiple instances, there's just the one with Rewire.