To All The Sampleheads

[Equilibrium]

ok, I'm quite confused by all this and find it hard to find much up to date information about this on the net. I have a few questions to ask that have me stumped.

I am using Wavelab and Cubase SX 2. My method so far is to chop the samples in a simple way in Wavelab, and then import them to Cubase as Audio files.

Once in Cubase I alter the tempo until they 'fit'. now...

I haven't a clue how I can change the tempo of the track and have the samples still loop in time.

I also don't understand how I can import two samples of different tempos and 'sync' them to the same tempo.

I also don't quite understand, how pitch will work in this instance. I remember using Acid Pro a few years ago with a school teacher, and him being in awe of new developments, which ment that a sample could be made faster whilst the pitch would remain the same. I'm guessing however that if I sped up a sample in Cubase somehow, I would not have control over the pitch?

Thank you for any help

[CypherOne]

you need a tool like phatmatikpro which slices your loop for you and works as a vst in your host. It will allow you to speed up and slow down loops and sync them to your host tempo. Concrete fx's Dicer does the same tasks (there are others too). You will probably find that speeding up works quite well, but slowing down is not so good as you start to hear the gaps between the slices. all good fun tho

[C00kie]

Use ACID instead of CuBase, and all your tempo / timestretching problems are solved

[Sascha Franck]

From what I know, SX has an integrated slicing option.
Don't remember how to call it up (or what to do) from my head.

As CypherOne allready said, there's dedicated programs exactly for this task as well.

[scuzzphut]

you don't need a tool like phatmatik pro

in cubase sx2 you have everything you need.

(1) Changing tempo without changing pitch.

On the toolbar at the top (just right of the transport controls) there is a tool on the left hand side which looks like a black mouse pointer. If you hover over it, the tooltip says "object selection".
Click and hold for the drop down menu and select "sizing applies time stretch". You can now resize your samples to fit the tempo (if they are exactly a bar long -mabe a drumloop - then you can just snap them to the grid)

(2) All my tempos are ok now, but this bassline isn't in tune with the piano.

Right click on the audio clip in the arrange view. select process->pitchshift.
you can now tune the loops pitch without affecting it's tempo.


Good luck

[CypherOne]

alright smartarse - I didn't know that being too poor to afford a decent version of Cubarse...

[Equilibrium]

you don't need a tool like phatmatik pro

in cubase sx2 you have everything you need.

(1) Changing tempo without changing pitch.

On the toolbar at the top (just right of the transport controls) there is a tool on the left hand side which looks like a black mouse pointer. If you hover over it, the tooltip says "object selection".
Click and hold for the drop down menu and select "sizing applies time stretch". You can now resize your samples to fit the tempo (if they are exactly a bar long -mabe a drumloop - then you can just snap them to the grid)

(2) All my tempos are ok now, but this bassline isn't in tune with the piano.

Right click on the audio clip in the arrange view. select process->pitchshift.
you can now tune the loops pitch without affecting it's tempo.


Good luck

Nice one! That seemed to work a treat

Thank you everyone for your replies I might check out some of those programs also.

[scuzzphut]

alright smartarse - I didn't know that being too poor to afford a decent version of Cubarse...

glad it was taken in the spirit intended

[XanaX]

Easiest and cheapest way is to stretch them in (free) Acid Xpress...

[AndrewW]

Or yet another way is to make a perfect loop in Wavelab, then import it to Cubase, change your tempo to whatever you want, and use the streatch tool to streach the loop to however many bars you want. Make sure you use the MPEX algorhythm. I use this method and the results are much, much better than using ACID. Or you can use the slicing (Hitpoints) method in Cubase SX2, and that works too. In fact, you can change the tempo in Cubase to match the loop, slice the loop yourself, and then change the tempo to whatever tempo you want, and the slices will stay in the same measure position as in original loop, and you have a loop in time

Phatmagic Pro - don't want it