Is the Seventh Heaven Pro or the Sonsig Rev A reverb more suitable for Techno production?

[Tendou]

Hi,

Titel says it all. Looking for a new Reverb for my mainroom/warehouse/hard techno production since Im not happy with my Valhalla Vintage.

Thank you.

[HcDoom]

If you think VVV is not good enough for mixing of electronic music, than I must be frank, sorry...but you are in wrong business

Edit: can you pls share some of your tracks, soundcloud or something?

[Etienne1973]

Valhalla or be damned.

[Dirtgrain]

Any reverb can work--it's a question of what sound you like. Since you are not liking VVV, you ought to demo what is available and decide from those, ideally (I don't recall what reverbs don't have demoes).

[Tendou]

If you think VVV is not good enough for mixing of electronic music, than I must be frank, sorry...but you are in wrong business

Edit: can you pls share some of your tracks, soundcloud or something?

bro, I didnt say its not good enough, I just dont like working with it on a regular basis. I do use it for some sort of sound design tasks but I dont like the sound of it for putting my tracks in a room and for hall to make things big. so I want a new main reverb for my return channel tasks. wether you like it or not is subjective so dont be so rude when I ask for opinions. I demoed both reverbs mentioned above and I like them more for the task Im looking for but I cant decide so I ask for KVRs opinion.

you can visit my website there are links to everything you want to hear: caynofficial.com

[W23]

Sonsig RevA is a really really nice reverb that is easy to use. I don’t own 7th Heaven, so I can’t speak to it. I’ve also been playing with the Exponential Audio Phoenix, Nimbus, and R4. There was Phoenix for only $9.99 at one point, and it just opened up an upgrade path to R4, which I picked up later for only $29. Those are GOOD Reverb’s. Like, R4 sounds like what you hear in your head when you think of reverb. It’s not particularly intuitive to use (probably my biggest complaint about R4), but there are a TON of excellent presets that you can tweak. I think it depends on what you want from a reverb, to be honest. R4 is the work of one of Lexicon’s designers, and I think that’s what it sounds like: a cross section of Lexicon reverbs.

I’m betting that 7th Heaven is not unlike R4. I think they both go for that unmistakable Lexicon sound (isn’t 7th Heaven also based on some Lexicon gear?...doesn’t Valhalla Vintage Verb lean that way too?). Sonsig nods toward Lexicon (as well as an old TC Electronic VSR-S something-or-other), but it is definitely a more “modern” sounding reverb. I’ve heard some complain that Sonsig is a bit “bright” (and yes it is, now that I think about it), even with the brightness knob turned down. Sonsig would be the one to reach for if you want your instruments to sound like they’re at the bottom of a really deep cavern, though. R4 (and I’m guessing 7th Heaven) really will shine on straight room and plate emulations. You can get rooms and quasi-plates with Sonsig, but you may need to work a little to get it there, it always seems to be upfront and I often like my instruments to sound like “a part of” the artificial space they’re in. I think that R4 does that really well. I’ve heard the other ReLab reverb (LX 480) does a better job of it, but it comes at a premium price. Black Friday is right around the corner, though.

[Etienne1973]

I want a new main reverb for my return channel tasks.

I have 7th Heaven Pro and Relab Sonsig Rev-A. But iZotope/EA Nimbus gives me best transparent cohesive room impression with the 1 main reverb in a return channel approach.

[Digivolt]

I have both and use them both in electronic but if I had to pick 1 it would be sonsig, it's just easier to get the sound I want but that's not to say seventh heaven is a slouch, I just find it requires more effort

[HcDoom]

bro, I didnt say its not good enough, I just dont like working with it on a regular basis. I do use it for some sort of sound design tasks but I dont like the sound of it for putting my tracks in a room and for hall to make things big. so I want a new main reverb for my return channel tasks. wether you like it or not is subjective so dont be so rude when I ask for opinions. I demoed both reverbs mentioned above and I like them more for the task Im looking for but I cant decide so I ask for KVRs opinion.

you can visit my website there are links to everything you want to hear: caynofficial.com

Sorry if I my message appeared rude, but people give up to easily on Valhalla thinking that 50$ plugin doesnt cut it, but it does, you just need to play with it and most importantly eq it.

Havent tried SHP, thats why i cant comment on it, but I heard good comments about it.

I did try/use Sonsig and to me, it sounds more open/spacious, thinner/brighter and wider than VVV, while VVV sounds denser and heavier...very Blade runner like (also depends on the algo), good for pads for example. I would use both VVV and Sonsig in same song as to me they have different character. Sonsig is on 50% discount now and you cant go wrong with it.

I hope this helps.

[SamDi]

I have also my problems with these „warm“ vintage emulating reverbs, great on voices and guitars, but somehow often too much, dense, whatever on modern music. When you look already on Relab side, have you ever regarded to take VSR S24 ? I had once the subscription and I liked this very much, not just the sound but also the usability and how to dial-in, what I wanted. And related to this vintage stuff, it sounded pretty modern. Since I disliked the iLok-dongle and from time to time need to tidy up subscriptions, I dropped it, but was one of the best reverbs I ever had.

[Ian Mackie]

I’m betting that 7th Heaven is not unlike R4. I think they both go for that unmistakable Lexicon sound (isn’t 7th Heaven also based on some Lexicon gear?...

Seventh Heaven isn't that lexicon sound. Seventh Heaven is based on the famous Bricasti M7 hardware you've heard in a million songs in your life.

Ok, maybe not a million!

Seventh Heaven is awesome. I think they were given the original software algorithms of the hardware from the company.

Plus, you can demo seventh heaven for free for 10 days if you've got an iLok.

[Ian Mackie]

Hi,

Titel says it all. Looking for a new Reverb for my mainroom/warehouse/hard techno production since Im not happy with my Valhalla Vintage.

Thank you.

You can demo 7th Heaven for free if you've got an iLok. I've got it and used it on electronica, its very cool.

[yellowmix]

If you want to try with VVV again. Set color on NOW, use a hall or room algorithm, and turn modulation depth all the way down, that's as clean as it can get. If it isn't clean or bright enough for you then you want another reverb. But people saying VVV can do everything, no it can't, it's based on gear that is dark and modulated. What it is meant to do it does very well and the bang for buck is undeniable. But Valhalla made other reverbs for a reason.

Seventh Heaven sits in the mix really well. It's "realistic" in the sense it's not chorused and modulated to the degree Lexicon/VVV is but it's not totally natural either as there is some modulation to keep it interesting.

Note there are two editions, the Pro has V2 and nonlinear and deeper controls. The fact that the V1 library doesn't need much massaging beyond EQ shows how the algorithms are programmed to be mix-ready. If you're still demoing try mixing the same song to a pre-master state with both and see which mix you like more and which tool took more work to get there. Rev A is built for fast workflow so it'll be a good competition.

[HotCoffee]

Hi,

Titel says it all. Looking for a new Reverb for my mainroom/warehouse/hard techno production since Im not happy with my Valhalla Vintage.

Thank you.

You can demo 7th Heaven for free if you've got an iLok. I've got it and used it on electronica, its very cool.

No need for the dongle, iLok Cloud works too.

[PatchAdamz]

Seventh Heaven Pro and Sonsig Rev A are very different.
Both are very good and can be used for all kinds of music production.
Both also have demos, so you can try them for yourself and see what you think.