How can I remake this pluck?

[aviorrok]

Hi,
How can I remake the pluck from "I like you better"? I tried a Sine wave with reverb and EQ but this pluck is more plucky
Example: https://skiomusic.com/lauv/lauv-i-like-me-better "Chords Stem"
Thanks!

[Niowiad]

Yup, a sinewave alone will still miss the pluck/buzz on the attack stage.

That sounds very FM-ish to me.
Like a very simple 2-operators scenario, with 1:2 C:M ratio.
Pluck-like envelope on both operators, but faster decay on the modulator.
FM index by ear (modulated by velocity if you like), every synth is different.
Then some slightly detuned unison and/or chorus. Then reverb.

There might be other ways I'm not thinking of, possibly?

[aviorrok]

Yup, a sinewave alone will still miss the pluck/buzz on the attack stage.

That sounds very FM-ish to me.
Like a very simple 2-operators scenario, with 1:2 C:M ratio.
Pluck-like envelope on both operators, but faster decay on the modulator.
FM index by ear (modulated by velocity if you like), every synth is different.
Then some slightly detuned unison and/or chorus. Then reverb.

There might be other ways I'm not thinking of, possibily?

Yeah you right I succeed to remake it but I miss the sub/low bass how can I add it?
Edit I think it's bass not sub bass cause it in 80-100Hz

[Niowiad]

At least in my opinion, that's a different instrument/patch, playing the bass line.
And it sounds like it could easily be standard subtractive synthesis, like a deeply hi-passed saw, with a plucky envelope.

Although, the whole thing won't sound "right" without the same notes being played.
The bass is monophonic, but the pluck sounds like it's playing two notes at a time.
Something like this... https://vocaroo.com/15B3hsLkSLtz
I really didn't fine-tune the patches, it's just for the general idea.

[CHOOS]

I can guarantee you that it's just a saw bass-pluck.
There's another instrument or another patch over that one higher up making it sound like one sound as the timing is exactly the same but it's just a saw and a higher note on top.
The upper note could be a something as simple as a sine

[aviorrok]

At least in my opinion, that's a different instrument/patch, playing the bass line.
And it sounds like it could easily be standard subtractive synthesis, like a deeply hi-passed saw, with a plucky envelope.

Although, the whole thing won't sound "right" without the same notes being played.
The bass is monophonic, but the pluck sounds like it's playing two notes at a time.
Something like this... https://vocaroo.com/15B3hsLkSLtz
I really didn't fine-tune the patches, it's just for the general idea.

I almost there https://voca.ro/1ceWf5UvzLao It's 2 synths I need to make it more plucky

EDIT: New version ONE SYNTH https://voca.ro/1n5eWhEexhQh it's close but I think I miss something it should be more plucky

[Niowiad]

Slightly higher FM index?
Slightly faster decay of the modulator?
Slightly different modulator env decay curve (if the synth supports it)?

It could be a few things.

But don't beat yourself up too much, you're still very close, comparing your patches to the full context of the arrangement and post processing of the reference can be misleading at times.

[rockyfeels]

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EDIT: New version ONE SYNTH https://voca.ro/1n5eWhEexhQh (https://voca.ro/1n5eWhEexhQh) it's close but I think I miss something it should be more plucky

How did you make it sound like this and how can I achieve more hard-hitting pluck??