MTubroAmp medium gain prototype(s)

[Chandlerhimself]

Thank you everyone that gave me feedback in the last thread. I have 2 more prototypes here of medium gain amps. I tried to make something British sounding with reasonable amount of gain. Something you might use for classic rock to hard rock. They both have a boost switch to increase or decrease the gain.

I created 2 versions and I'd appreciate some feedback if you have time. Which do you like better A or B? Do they both sound bad? Do they both sound good? Is there anything you'd change about the tone? Does it have that classic rock vibe?

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[MeldaProduction]

I'll check when possible!

[tylerdedera]

These sound really good. They sound like two different amps to me, so it's hard to say which I like better. Amp B (0.2) I think sounds better through larger sized IRs, while Amp A (0.3) sounds really good through smaller speaker IRs. Thats completely my opinion though.
I like the emphasized resonant body of Amp B, however the more I dial in the gain the less of the body I'd like to hear. The drive seems to fold in a really notchy kind of way in the upper mids for an amp sound.. if that makes sense...I notice it more when palm muting power chords above 65%. But at more moderate gain levels (10-60%) the tone and character are delicious. To my ears sounds really good through Marshall and HiWatt IRs.
Amp A seems to sound good through all cabs even the larger sized Marshalls, however it I think it sounds more natural through my smaller VOX and smaller Orange cab IRs. It's difficult to get Amp A to sound "bad" so to say. It has a more warm kinda vintage vibe to it but also feels like a 8-10 inch smaller amp.
Either way I think they both sound pretty good to me, and should be their own amps. Just my opinion

[Chandlerhimself]

These sound really good. They sound like two different amps to me, so it's hard to say which I like better. Amp B (0.2) I think sounds better through larger sized IRs, while Amp A (0.3) sounds really good through smaller speaker IRs. Thats completely my opinion though.
I like the emphasized resonant body of Amp B, however the more I dial in the gain the less of the body I'd like to hear. The drive seems to fold in a really notchy kind of way in the upper mids for an amp sound.. if that makes sense...I notice it more when palm muting power chords above 65%. But at more moderate gain levels (10-60%) the tone and character are delicious. To my ears sounds really good through Marshall and HiWatt IRs.
Amp A seems to sound good through all cabs even the larger sized Marshalls, however it I think it sounds more natural through my smaller VOX and smaller Orange cab IRs. It's difficult to get Amp A to sound "bad" so to say. It has a more warm kinda vintage vibe to it but also feels like a 8-10 inch smaller amp.
Either way I think they both sound pretty good to me, and should be their own amps. Just my opinion

Thanks. This feedback is really helpful. I also don't like the notchy upper mids of "B", so I'll try to get rid of them and see what I can come up with. I'm glad you like "A", I was going for a more vintage vibe with that one. I'll wait for a bit more feedback and probably submit "A", but use B in future(with some tweaking). I want to make lots of different amps, but of course I need to start somewhere, so feedback like this is really helpful.

[werzel]

tyler,
That was the best example of constructive criticism that I have seen in a very long time.

[Chandlerhimself]

Ok I've attached some quick samples below and I have a GUI(although I think I'll add/improve it later). I adjusted "A" a little to give it more bass and make it sound a bigger, but its mostly the same sound. The new version is "A2". The resonance in B was bothering me, so I tried to get rid of it, but it made it sound darker and with less gain. I think it sounds better, but perhaps it need more tweaking. "B2" is the new version.

A
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ol0kv1tmyv8rut/A.mp3?dl=1

A2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/72jvp5o6yd9fich/A2.mp3?dl=1

B
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uq4lwb7k7ax1o4h/B.mp3?dl=1

B2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/71jsuzgj7955isk/B2.mp3?dl=1

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I think I'll use "A2" for the final version, and use "A" for a future amp after I make with a few changes. I think I'll tweak "B2" and make that into a new amp also. Perhaps I'll reduce the gain on "B" and use that too. Thoughts? Anything sounding bad or something I should change.

[Chandlerhimself]

Is it better with tabs or worse?

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[MeldaProduction]

No tabs please ! For just the few knobs, it really makes no sense!
From the examples I definitely like A & A2 more, B not really.

[Chandlerhimself]

I put the panel on the front below the amp. Hopefully that works and isn't too confusing. Later I want to put a logo on it so it doesn't look quite so plain. Thoughts?

[MeldaProduction]

To me it doesn't look particularly great, but as a starting point, why not. I'd put it into an actual "hw".

[Chandlerhimself]

To me it doesn't look particularly great, but as a starting point, why not. I'd put it into an actual "hw".

I agree that it doesn't look particularly good, but I really have no idea what to do with the advanced controls. It doesn't make much sense to have a back panel below the front and there is no hardware place to put it IMO. Perhaps I can move the amp down and have them "float" at the top with "digital" style knobs. Anyone else have any ideas?

[goldglob]

As the 'back panel' thing seems to be a problem, how about just redesigning the front panel to include all controls?

[MeldaProduction]

From my experience the most important thing is the background, you need to start with that. Find some actually cabinet photo, "erase" the actual controls from it and import that to the GUI designer. The rest of the GUI will evolve from that. We can certainly add more knobs to templates etc. if needed.