Can someone school me on single coil hum denoiser plugins?
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- KVRer
- 20 posts since 19 Dec, 2020
I am struggling with getting noiseless recordings of a well overdriven Strat in bridge position. I really don't like the sound of positions 2 and 4, and I've done all of the things that can be done in the room to reduce hum. I've just started trying to learn something about whether there are plugins that can automatically deal with 60 cycle guitar hum. One that came up in a google search was Isotope Denoiser, but I thought I'd also see if I could get an opinion or two from others who have been down this road.
I'm not opposed to buying a plugin, but might like to try something free or as a demo first, to see how well these things work. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
I'm not opposed to buying a plugin, but might like to try something free or as a demo first, to see how well these things work. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
- KVRAF
- 6288 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
I've seen a lot of plugins and so far I've only seen one that is specific to hum and that is DeHum as part of the izotope RX product. Their DeNoiser is also good for the kind of noise you are talking about. But there are other options for general purpose denoisers - I like McDSP DN800 as well as izotope - they all do similar things but in different ways - I've found having some options for denoisers is useful to find the right one for the specific job. In general the RX series are a good choice for many manner of denoising. Too bad we don't have a denoiser for the forum.
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- KVRAF
- 1583 posts since 26 Aug, 2019
Acon Restoration Suite also has a DeHum module. The iZotope RX De-hum module is included even in the Elements version, so may be the cheaper option and can often be found for free.
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 18 Jun, 2010
Experiment with where you're sitting/standing when you play! Slight differences in angle or position can make HUGE changes in how much hum comes through.
And/but, iZotope RX FTW.
And/but, iZotope RX FTW.
- KVRAF
- 7858 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Acon Digital noise reduction. It’s the most transparent denoiser on the market and is low enough latency you can use it in real time, unlike other noiseprint denoisers.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
RX stuff is top notch so another vote here.
For doing offline or not latency critical stuff, give ReaFir a go too - free, and you can draw in the curve etc;
https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
For doing offline or not latency critical stuff, give ReaFir a go too - free, and you can draw in the curve etc;
https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
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- KVRAF
- 5128 posts since 30 Aug, 2012 from Sweden
Do you have something else in your room that cause the noise? Or the place where you live? Is the hum only from the strat? Have you considered noiseless pickups?
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 20 posts since 19 Dec, 2020
Thanks for all the replies. On a whim I just bought a set of Fender Gen 4 Noiseless pickups which I should have installed in a few days. I've always been leery of noiseless pickups as those I tried many years ago were sterile and clinical to my ear, but I'm trusting the technology is better today. The Gen 4's have good reviews.
Will still study the replies and incorporate all suggestions to get as close to noiseless as possible.
Will still study the replies and incorporate all suggestions to get as close to noiseless as possible.
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- KVRist
- 170 posts since 20 Jul, 2012
Probably also the position of the guitar is too close or in a "wrong" angle to the computer.
Also conider using humbuckers. Plugins only make it worse...
Also conider using humbuckers. Plugins only make it worse...
- KVRAF
- 7858 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
That’s probably a good call. I know putting EMGs in my Strat gave it a new lease on life. I used to only play in position 2 and 4 because those were the only positions that were tolerable. Now those are the positions I don’t use because I have the luxury of choosing my PU position based on tone instead of noise.jmm22 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:34 pmOn a whim I just bought a set of Fender Gen 4 Noiseless pickups which I should have installed in a few days. I've always been leery of noiseless pickups as those I tried many years ago were sterile and clinical to my ear, but I'm trusting the technology is better today.
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- Banned
- 10 posts since 21 Dec, 2020
Can't a good equalizer knock out hum? It's a frequency
- KVRAF
- 7858 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
The problem with RX is it is overkill for this task. You need at least RX Standard to get the Spectral De-Noise and Guitar De-Noise plugins, and that will cost you $300.
The RX Guitar De-Noise looks pretty gimmicky, and I doubt it would do a better job than spectral de-noising with a precise noiseprint of your PU’s noise profile.
And the RX Spectral De-Noise doesn’t do anything special that Acon Digital Denoise 2 doesn’t do. Denoise 2 actually seems to have a few more features than RX Spectral De-Noise, and the price of entry is definitely a lot nicer.
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- KVRAF
- 7858 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
You can but your tone will suffer considerably compared to spectral denoising.clone culture wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:44 pm Can't a good equalizer knock out hum? It's a frequency
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- KVRist
- 170 posts since 20 Jul, 2012
clone culture wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:44 pm Can't a good equalizer knock out hum? It's a frequency
Yes, i mean, a mute button would do the same...
