Who will be using Renoise or Redux in 2021?

[SLiC]

I finally just bought Renoise and Redux after running the demo for ages and 'fiddling' with it.

I guess trackers are not for everyone but hopefully with hardware like Polyend Tracker more people will see some of the advantages of the old school trackers...the original 'parameter per note' sequencer !

If you haven't tried them, check them out (Renoise is a full DAW with a tracker style sequencer, Redux is a VST plug in sampler with a tracker built in for slicing and making phrases)

https://www.renoise.com/

Cheap, fun, great developer and community

Anyone else using Renoise? Are you making full song's or stems for other DAWS (that is mainly where I am at currently although the arranger seem pretty good).

[El°HYM]

I still use Renoise from time to time, yet more like a Sampler to generate Loops. It actually replaced my MPC2000 somewhere in the early 2000s. If you dig into all those Keyboard Shortcuts it can be a pretty quick & Yet also very powerful Tool.

[SLiC]

I still use Renoise from time to time, yet more like a Sampler to generate Loops. It actually replaced my MPC2000 somewhere in the early 2000s. If you dig into all those Keyboard Shortcuts it can be a pretty quick & Yet also very powerful Tool.

Yeh, I think that's why they made Redux as a VST, you can do it from within your DAW! I think Redux as about £30 if you own Renoise so worth having.

I really like the workflow, I use to use an Octotack before and in many ways Renoise is more powerful for sample manipulation (and easier!).

[3qO]

Great example: DJ Ophidian made amazing hardcore track using just 1 sample in Renoise

[Mumdad]

Having given it a try recently I'm making the fairly drastic change of going from Live Suite and Push 2 to Renoise and my PC keyboard.

The learning curve was pretty rough for a few days having never used a tracker before but once I'd got the basics down a little I started thinking 'Why do I need this expensive stuff and all these distracting sound design gadgets?' Although I like working with limitations in general when working with MIDI I have a bad habit of keeping things open and tinkering until the end, so doing a 180 and using something that encourages committing to audio more often feels like it'll work out well for me.

Worth mentioning for anyone thinking of jumping in that VST3 support is in the current beta and the stable release is apparently due any day now. That being added pretty much made up my mind to switch.

[e@rs]

Having given it a try recently I'm making the fairly drastic change of going from Live Suite and Push 2 to Renoise and my PC keyboard.

Worth mentioning for anyone thinking of jumping in that VST3 support is in the current beta and the stable release is apparently due any day now. That being added pretty much made up my mind to switch.

Didn't know that. Awesome news!

[NERF_PROTOSS]

yeah, using renoise puts me in the mindset of using a really beefy hardware sampler.

there's an interesting workflow tradeoff - working with something polyphonic & unquantized (e.g. a piano part) is straightforward in a piano roll but a total mess in renoise, BUT sampling that part and doing creative stuff with it is straightforward in renoise but a total mess with a piano roll + automation.

[SLiC]

Yeh, as I mentioned, I had been using OT which also has a hell of a learning curve! I also oftenm use the list view in my MPC which is similar to a tracker view...



I haven't found the polyphonic stuff too bad, keep it on one track, record it live and you get the 'micro timing' if your playing is sloppy which can actually be quite interesting. Its also fun just putting slides and fx on the individual chord notes...manual MPE!

[gentleclockdivider]

Using renoise for almost 15 years , nothing comes close, and if feel the need for a different approach I use loomer architect whichis equally as impressive
I did purchase studio one twoyears ago but linear sequencing is just not for me , still haven't sold it..dunno why
Renoise all the way
When my cirklon arrives , it will be interesting to see how I can integrate it in my workflow

[statue]

I’ve been fiddling with the demo for ages also and probably will buy the full license in 2021. Just love using Renoise as a sampler, playing samples with my computer keyboard and the sequences and patterns I come up with Renoise are completely different than with other stuff.

[vitocorleone123]

Having given it a try recently I'm making the fairly drastic change of going from Live Suite and Push 2 to Renoise and my PC keyboard.

The learning curve was pretty rough for a few days having never used a tracker before but once I'd got the basics down a little I started thinking 'Why do I need this expensive stuff and all these distracting sound design gadgets?' Although I like working with limitations in general when working with MIDI I have a bad habit of keeping things open and tinkering until the end, so doing a 180 and using something that encourages committing to audio more often feels like it'll work out well for me.

Worth mentioning for anyone thinking of jumping in that VST3 support is in the current beta and the stable release is apparently due any day now. That being added pretty much made up my mind to switch.

You’re totally me in the 1990s.
Enjoy.

I left DOS trackers around the year 2000 and have never looked back. I’m now as much into hardware as software and generally only use samples for drums.

[crickey13]

Have used Ableton for 7-8 years, will be switching to Renoise now. Looks like the right tool for the kind of music I make, kind of confusing to prove inspiring without being too confusing if that makes sense, a completely different kind of a workflow. Looks very compact, fast, sorta utilitarian and unpretentious as opposed to all the bloated DAWs out there.

The first few days will probably be rough, but who cares, it's so cheap and looks so fun. And the price is so good. I really don't use 40% of the premium, hi-tech DAW stuff and prefer to keep it simple, why overpay and then get distracted by the plethora of options.

[SLiC]

Looks very compact, fast, sorta utilitarian and unpretentious as opposed to all the bloated DAWs out there.

I quite like the way it looks, it is like a very advanced hardware interface!

The first few days will probably be rough, but who cares, it's so cheap and looks so fun. And the price is so good. I really don't use 40% of the premium, hi-tech DAW stuff and prefer to keep it simple, why overpay and then get distracted by the plethora of options.

Its not too bad- watch the (many) beginners videos and stick with sample instruments for a while (rather than VSTs) and you will be making stuff in no time!

[Mumdad]

Yeah, I love the looks - which is kind of ironic as the relative lack of visual feedback is also a plus to me.

Being slightly further along on the same Live-->Renoise journey my main tip would be to read up on and really internalise the keyboard focus concept before you start. If I had questions along the lines of 'Why is this not doing the thing I'm telling it to?' a quick Google would almost always reveal the keyboard focus to be the answer and have me slapping my forehead.. Again.

I'm still tripping up on it because clicking around just doesn't behave in the intuitively expected way.. but I have faith that it's for good reasons that I'm largely ignorant to as a beginner. Not 'un-focusing' the pattern editor when you click away from it makes sense, for example, but I still forget about it since it's not consistent with clicking away from some other parts of the GUI. Just need to get more used to it really.

[ReleaseCandidate]

I also oftenm use the list view in my MPC which is similar to a tracker view...

The MIDI Event view in any DAW that has one (almost all do, I don't know if there is a usable M4L device for Live) looks more or less like that.