Live looper?

[JeffLearman]

I'm looking for a free or very cheap live looper 64-bit VST for Windows, that allows using MIDI sustain pedal as the button. (I can add a second footswitch if I need to.) The kind of looping I'm talking about is for example playing a verse on guitar and then having that loop while I solo.

I've never used a looper. (Back in 78 I got a Roland RE301 Chorus Echo that I used for kinda looping, but that worked differently than how modern loopers do, and thank goodness for the improvement.)

KVR lists 4 freebies, but unfortunately none of them quite worked out. Loopy Llama seems to have disappeared. Mobius is 32-bit only. Regen does nothing when I try to load it into VSTHost (no error message, no plugin appears, nothing.)

Instalooper plugs in and seems to work, but even after reading the instructions I have no clue how to use it, and I don't think it would work well as a live tool. Maybe it would, along with mapping MIDI messages to controls, but only if I had a clue how to actually use it. Any tips?

What I want is something very simple, so I can learn to do this first -- then complications later as needed.

If I can't find what I want, I might just write one. I wrote a very simple VST before so I'm sure I could do it (but no fancy GUI since I'm not a GUI guy, though it'd be free/open-source and if someone wants to add one, great!)

In addition to any recommendations anyone may have, I'd also like to learn how they actually work. From reading other posts and explanations and writeups on existing loopers (including pedals) I have a general idea but haven't quite grasped the details. I'm thinking it works something like this:

• Start playing, get even tempo & groove going

• stomp to start recording

• stomp to end recording. The loop immediately begins repeating.

• ... ? ... this is the part I'm puzzled about

The obvious options are something like this:

• stop the loop

• start recording a new loop to replace the old loop

• record a new loop to layer with the old loop (for my use, it should have the same start/stop points)

Once I have more than one loop, how would I select which loop to stop or replace?

The signals are single-stomp, double-stomp, and long stomp. Of course, with two buttons we have a lot more options. If I were to code one, I'd provide the ability to configure the signal for each operation. The trick is defining the operations for the most seamless use.

Thanks!

[JeffLearman]

BTW I have Guitar Rig, which came as part of NI Komplete Start. It has tape decks, but due to the way the controls work, I don't think I can use it as a live looper.

[El°HYM]

Wouldnt Ableton's Looper already be what you are actually looking for?
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/live- ... -25-looper

*edit*

Ok, sorry misinterpreted somehow.

Then another VST would be the Melda SuperLooper.
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MSuperLooper

[JeffLearman]

Thanks. Can you get Ableton's looper without buying Ableton?

MSuperLooper is the kind of thing I'm looking for, but you're underestimating how cheap I am. Regardless I'd consider it but I don't think it has a free demo.

[El°HYM]

You would indeed need Ableton to use its Looper. My bad.

The MSuperLooper should have a 14 Days Trail & is on Sale right now.

Other than that beside the ones you already mentioned, there is GLoop:
viewtopic.php?t=152771

[JeffLearman]

Thanks -- looks like MSuperLooper will work for me, though the MIDI setup is very confusing (and I'm a software engineer.)

GLoop almost worked but not quite.

[El°HYM]

MSuperLooper is really good and worth to check out. The GLoop is actually also pretty fine, yet never really left the Beta - stage. The Ableton one is also neat. Yet check the MSL as it might be the best option and offers all the features.

[El°HYM]

If you decide to get the Melda; feel free to use my referral-code:

MELDA3989356

Gives you another 20% off on top of the current Sale &
Me getting 10% in credits via them. Just in case.

[JeffLearman]

Thanks but too late! Sadly, I'd bought it before I realized I could try it for free.

I'm having an issue with it, though: I often get a blip at the repeat, regardless of the crossfade setting.

And, is there a STOP button somewhere? The damn thing just keeps going and going. I can click each track's play button to silence it, or Reset All to clobber everything, but nothing that just stops all the tracks cleanly and quietly. This thing is powerful but very nonintuitive and it's going take me quite a while to get it figured out.

I may start a new thread on how to make this thing work. Meanwhile it's a lot of fun, but far from playable live. (That applies to me, too!)

[El°HYM]

You just need to hit your DAWs Stop-button to make it stop. About the Blips, I never experienced this, so not sure what that could be about. There is a dedicated User-forum in here though, with some helpful folks including the Developer. viewforum.php?f=138

[ericzang]

Seamless loops: viewtopic.php?f=138&t=545270&p=7916163#p7916163
Stop/Restart (and other functions): viewtopic.php?f=138&t=558468

[zerocrossing]

Thanks -- looks like MSuperLooper will work for me, though the MIDI setup is very confusing (and I'm a software engineer.)

GLoop almost worked but not quite.

It’s not that bad. Check out the video demos of how to set it up. Great looper.

[TVbene]

Very helpful links!

[El°HYM]

Indeed helpful,
thank you.

[pabloaldunate]

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