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suliman · Post by **suliman** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:05 pm

Hi everybody
I would like to ask you about "music studio 2004"
What can I do with it?
Why it is deferent?
Is it good Prg for me as a beginner?
Is there any demo to try it?
Am I need onother Prg with it or it is enough?
Thank you
Suliman

TheUDE · Post by **TheUDE** » Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:46 pm

Hi Suliman

Music Studio consists of two separate programs: Midi Studio is a cut-down version of Logic 5.X, and Audio Studio is a cut-down version of Samplitude, so if you search out some information on those two hosts, you'll see roughly what you're getting.

Midi Studio will allow you to arrange music using MIDI parts, audio parts, and Audio Instrument parts (Audio Instruments = VST instruments). The program comes with some decent integrated synths and effects, and you can add third-party VSTis and FX as you wish. Midi Studio has Logic's Sample Editor (well, lacking a few features), so you can do most types of editing that are required in Midi Studio alone.

Audio Studio, as the name suggests, is more dedicated to working with audio tracks, though it now features some pretty basic step-programmable drum machines and synths. It's a very capable audio editor, and can record and arrange complete tracks and burn them to CD.

The package includes sample loops and MIDI files you can use to base arrangements on if you like that sort of thing.

I don't think you'd need any other program other than maybe some extra VST plugins for variety. However, I reently bought EnergyXT as it fills in some of the gaps in Midi Studio's feature list (like its lack of FX inserts on each track).

Whether it's a good program for a beginner is hard to answer. Some people take an instant dislike to anything that looks like Logic; mind you, others of us find it hard to adapt to other sequencers (like Cubase) comfortably once we've used Midi Studio for a while - things that feel like second nature can be more complicated to achieve in Cubase, but each to their own.

The two programs are feature-packed and quite deep, so it can take a while to get to grips with them. But I was making my first tune in Midi Studio within an hour or so, having previously tinkered with such gems as the ancient MIDI-only version of Cubase and eJay.

For the price, I'd say the package is hard to beat (though if I were starting out nowadays, I'd maybe get straight into EnergyXT, as once its bugs are ironed out, it looks like it'll do most things except serve as an audio editor, and there are quite a few of those around). It's updated every year (this year's update should be out before Christmas), and the distributors offer upgrade discounts each time.

You'll find the current demo of Audio Studio at: http://site.magix.net/index.php?id=411 (you'll probably need to register before downloading it - and it's 38MB!

) I can't find a current demo of Midi studio, though it's featured in its earlier versions on the Computer Music coverdisc, and maybe elsewhere. If you've ever tried MicroLogic or whatever, it's very similar.

If you do decide to buy, it's worth waiting for this winter's new version. Otherwise, sometimes you'll find that shops like PCWorld or Amazon.com will beat Magix's own prices, for some weird unfathomable reason.

fake · Post by **fake** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:19 pm

Well worth the money.

I use 2004dl, upgraded for free to 2005dl.

As said the lack of "sends" can be restrictive, but I use chainer to get around that. Also you can only use 6 vst tracks unless you upgrade to 2005, then its 12. I cant think of another product that could compare to it for the price. Its Logic with a small l,

and even includes some logic instruments and fx.

The files .msp will also import into Logic 5+ which could be important for the future.

fake

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:39 pm

has anyone tried out the MAGIX Elastic Audio Easy, sounds pretty tasty, only available in german at the moment, I was told the english version would be out in 6 months

google translation

Audio data can be worked on just as flexibly as MIDI data in their pitch. For this a simple editor is available, in whom pitch is combined an automation with routines for pitch recognition and to the pitch correction of mono phoneme audio material. Inaccurate singing photographs can by simply drawing brought cliches of instruments, solo into the correct tendency, and, can be manipulated in melody and kind of clay/tone by Drag&Drop

TheUDE · Post by **TheUDE** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:43 am

If you can hack the German, here's the press pack for the upcoming version of Music Studio:

http://site.magix.net/content/presse/pr ... o_2005.pdf

And here's a translation of another page that gives some details of the new feature set (they never make it clear which features will apply to Audio Studio and which to Midi Studio, unfortunately):

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 8%26sa%3DG

Magix Music Maker has had a pitch correction tool for some time now. I've no idea whether this one will be related to it (the drum and bass synths in Audio Studio were ported over from Music Maker), but its feature set sounds a bit more advanced than MM's.

Here's a screenshot of the new virtual drummer. It looks flash, no idea how it'll sound.

From past experience, the UK version comes out a couple of months after the German one. I just hope that this time they get any upgrades to Midi Studio ready in time for the release, as last time we UK and European users had to download a massive patch to get all the extra features (which were worth the effort, though).

christianmusicmaker · Post by **christianmusicmaker** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:48 pm

CreepJoint wrote:has anyone tried out the MAGIX Elastic Audio Easy, sounds pretty tasty, only available in german at the moment, I was told the english version would be out in 6 months

Creepjoint, UK release date for Music Studio 2005...5th of November 2004.

Thanks for the links TheUDE

fishbowl.tucson.az · Post by **fishbowl.tucson.az** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:48 pm

>Well worth the money.

>I use 2004dl, upgraded for free to 2005dl.

I love Magix, I think it's one of the best values in audio software, and the "audio studio" portion is my favorite multitrack recorder, bar none.

However, they didn't offer *me* a free upgrade. I've been buying and re-buying the software for a few years now. I'm a little upset to hear about others getting it for free.

freeztar · Post by **freeztar** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 12:05 am

fishbowl.tucson.az wrote: However, they didn't offer *me* a free upgrade. I've been buying and re-buying the software for a few years now. I'm a little upset to hear about others getting it for free.

Same here

. I do love it though, for the value. It's just a shame you have to spend $900 more (Samplitude) to get 24bit and fx routing

. Does Logic have fx routing? Maybe I'll just upgrade to that if it is as similar to midi studio as people claim.

fishbowl.tucson.az · Post by **fishbowl.tucson.az** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:00 am

>Same here

. I do love it though, for the value. It's
>just a shame you have to spend $900 more (Samplitude)
>to get 24bit and fx routing

Magix does do 24 (32) bit audio.

Doesn't flstudio do both? 24 bit audio, plus fx sends and inserts? (I assume everyone uses FLStudio, and anything else they use is just to fill in some gap

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:53 am

fishbowl.tucson.az wrote:I assume everyone uses FLStudio, and anything else they use is just to fill in some gap

Basically

fake · Post by **fake** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:08 pm

The upgrade for MS2004 is on the uk site only, is 25mb and dependant on the version number you allready have.
If it says charge 1.0 on the cd the you can upgrade.
The midi part still don't support 24/96 though.

You will have to register you're current version to be able to acess it.
I think I used the barcode number on the box to register as I couldnt find a reg number.

Hope that helps some.

fake

Does music studio 2004 GOOD