Hello there Dudes!
I look for NuMetal free drum sampes
especially kick drum and snare drum!!!
and some EQ Tips to mix NuMetal tune
I notice that the drums track almost are
mixed in background and I dont know what is more important and low end of drums is mising I noticed that too and all Lows are comming from guitars ...
But I'm not shure
I need General Advices
and I dont know who to ask for that
and where i can ask that kind of question!
Pls be patient
and help me if you can!
also from long time I wander about
|SOME RULES
From Were to start my mixes!exactly what levels
I start from Kick drums
and generaly I mix rock tunes
PLEADING - Mixing Advices !!!
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- KVRist
- 162 posts since 15 Apr, 2003 from new zealand
there are a couple of people to ask - either robert randolph or his protege, johnblo.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2247 posts since 13 Dec, 2003
Peoples I SUPPLICATE/IMPLORE
you for Help
and directions!
all "general" rules is known to me
I dont want to steal you Secret
and HANDICRAFT!
pls if you have time and good heart
givme something more specific
in db , hz or some templates
for cubase
thanks in advance
you for Help
and directions!
all "general" rules is known to me
I dont want to steal you Secret
and HANDICRAFT!
pls if you have time and good heart
givme something more specific
in db , hz or some templates
for cubase
thanks in advance
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- KVRAF
- 3441 posts since 15 Mar, 2003
It sounds like you have already analyzed the sounds. Listening is the most important. I don't have any experience with numetal.
The starting levels are not that important. In other styles the bass and kick are about -6db.
Just start mixing. You can lower or raise everything later once you have things the way you like.
Then you will have some experience and will know how to start the next time.
Try www.hammersounds.net and soundfonts.net for some drum soundfonts. I think I have seen metal drums there.
The starting levels are not that important. In other styles the bass and kick are about -6db.
Just start mixing. You can lower or raise everything later once you have things the way you like.
Then you will have some experience and will know how to start the next time.
Try www.hammersounds.net and soundfonts.net for some drum soundfonts. I think I have seen metal drums there.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2247 posts since 13 Dec, 2003
PT wrote:It sounds like you have already analyzed the sounds. Listening is the most important. I don't have any experience with numetal.
The starting levels are not that important. In other styles the bass and kick are about -6db.
Just start mixing. You can lower or raise everything later once you have things the way you like.
Then you will have some experience and will know how to start the next time.
Try www.hammersounds.net and soundfonts.net for some drum soundfonts. I think I have seen metal drums there.
Thank you MAN!!!at least you answer me
thanks !
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- KVRist
- 478 posts since 18 Mar, 2003 from Champaign, Illinois
You might want to check out this guide...
http://members.aol.com/motionizer/page3.html
It gives starting points for "mixing by numbers" for a variety of styles.
I've followed this in the past when I just didn't know where to start with a mix, and was pleasantly surprised. For a truly professional/artful mix, however, you just need to listen to your tracks and learn how to balance the tracks together by choosing the right instrumentation, eq, effects, panning, compression, and volume... there are a million variables...
-Garret
http://members.aol.com/motionizer/page3.html
It gives starting points for "mixing by numbers" for a variety of styles.
I've followed this in the past when I just didn't know where to start with a mix, and was pleasantly surprised. For a truly professional/artful mix, however, you just need to listen to your tracks and learn how to balance the tracks together by choosing the right instrumentation, eq, effects, panning, compression, and volume... there are a million variables...
-Garret
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2247 posts since 13 Dec, 2003
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- KVRist
- 120 posts since 7 Sep, 2004
Hi dimitar,
I'll explain how I do it.
Goal one: Mix only the rhythm guitar(s) and the bass to make one massive sound.
The guitar has to be rolled off at 100-120Hz and the bass will fill this missing fundament. (Relax, I'm a guitar player, I always wanted the guitar to have the big low end but this way I got much better results and I heard it on lots of good records
)
Goal two: Kick and bass should give massive bass and no mud.
First lets examin the Kick: Take a parametric eq and make one frequency band VERY narrow and boost it max. While the Kick is playing sweep the frequency very slow from 40 Hz upwards in the bass range. You will find the frequencies where the Kick is playing by hearing the loud resonances from boosting these narrow frequency bands. When you found one bypass this eq band and take another eq band above the last found frequency and do the same. Find 2-4 of these frequencies. These are the major boom frequencies that we want to adjust to make our fat Kick. Boost or cut these found frequencies to make a fat Kick that you like. Hint: Try cutting one of the higher resonances.
Now play the bass together with the Kick. Set a good volume balance between them. Any mud? Or is it clearly audible what the bass is playing and what the Kick is playing? If not: Use an eq for the bass and tune it to the same frequencies with the same narrow bandwidth that you found with the Kick eq. Lower one of them a few dBs. Better?
OK, this is the basic procedure you have to do to get Kick and bass apart from one another and all with a massive sound. In an frequency range that you want to hear in the one instrument the other one has to be weaker and vice versa. When everything is seperated in a good way sometimes it's good to make the eq bans a little narrover until the whole sound glues more together. Make sure to avoid the point of mud when widening the eq bands.
I hope that was clear and helps. If not, please ask.
I'll explain how I do it.
Goal one: Mix only the rhythm guitar(s) and the bass to make one massive sound.
The guitar has to be rolled off at 100-120Hz and the bass will fill this missing fundament. (Relax, I'm a guitar player, I always wanted the guitar to have the big low end but this way I got much better results and I heard it on lots of good records
)Goal two: Kick and bass should give massive bass and no mud.
First lets examin the Kick: Take a parametric eq and make one frequency band VERY narrow and boost it max. While the Kick is playing sweep the frequency very slow from 40 Hz upwards in the bass range. You will find the frequencies where the Kick is playing by hearing the loud resonances from boosting these narrow frequency bands. When you found one bypass this eq band and take another eq band above the last found frequency and do the same. Find 2-4 of these frequencies. These are the major boom frequencies that we want to adjust to make our fat Kick. Boost or cut these found frequencies to make a fat Kick that you like. Hint: Try cutting one of the higher resonances.
Now play the bass together with the Kick. Set a good volume balance between them. Any mud? Or is it clearly audible what the bass is playing and what the Kick is playing? If not: Use an eq for the bass and tune it to the same frequencies with the same narrow bandwidth that you found with the Kick eq. Lower one of them a few dBs. Better?
OK, this is the basic procedure you have to do to get Kick and bass apart from one another and all with a massive sound. In an frequency range that you want to hear in the one instrument the other one has to be weaker and vice versa. When everything is seperated in a good way sometimes it's good to make the eq bans a little narrover until the whole sound glues more together. Make sure to avoid the point of mud when widening the eq bands.
I hope that was clear and helps. If not, please ask.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2247 posts since 13 Dec, 2003
rawcan wrote:Hi dimitar,
I'll explain how I do it.
Goal one: Mix only the rhythm guitar(s) and the bass to make one massive sound.
The guitar has to be rolled off at 100-120Hz and the bass will fill this missing fundament. (Relax, I'm a guitar player, I always wanted the guitar to have the big low end but this way I got much better results and I heard it on lots of good records
Goal two: Kick and bass should give massive bass and no mud.
First lets examin the Kick: Take a parametric eq and make one frequency band VERY narrow and boost it max. While the Kick is playing sweep the frequency very slow from 40 Hz upwards in the bass range. You will find the frequencies where the Kick is playing by hearing the loud resonances from boosting these narrow frequency bands. When you found one bypass this eq band and take another eq band above the last found frequency and do the same. Find 2-4 of these frequencies. These are the major boom frequencies that we want to adjust to make our fat Kick. Boost or cut these found frequencies to make a fat Kick that you like. Hint: Try cutting one of the higher resonances.
Now play the bass together with the Kick. Set a good volume balance between them. Any mud? Or is it clearly audible what the bass is playing and what the Kick is playing? If not: Use an eq for the bass and tune it to the same frequencies with the same narrow bandwidth that you found with the Kick eq. Lower one of them a few dBs. Better?
OK, this is the basic procedure you have to do to get Kick and bass apart from one another and all with a massive sound. In an frequency range that you want to hear in the one instrument the other one has to be weaker and vice versa. When everything is seperated in a good way sometimes it's good to make the eq bans a little narrover until the whole sound glues more together. Make sure to avoid the point of mud when widening the eq bands.
I hope that was clear and helps. If not, please ask.
ahhh Dude thanks!!