Is Diamond or Horizon the better choice for music production ?
What is your experience ?
Any recommendations ? I do not need VST instruments,
so IK Multimedia´s bundle would be too much for me and
I do not want a subscription!
Waves Diamond or Horizon or whate else ?
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- KVRAF
- 10171 posts since 2 Jan, 2005 from somewhere in the woods
+1
add Retro Fi, CLA Epic, Ovox and Brauer Motion for some extra weirdness
"It dreamed itself along"
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
Ditto.mellotronaut wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:50 pm+1
add Retro Fi, CLA Epic, Ovox and Brauer Motion for some extra weirdness
I use ADT all the time. Well, almost.
Actually, Renaissance Collection is old but really useful. I'd get that + ADT and MV2 - this one works wonders on vocals. Compressor and expander in one plugin.
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- KVRAF
- 7794 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
You can just get IK T-RackS 5 MAX. You don't have to get the full Studio bundle.
Most Waves plugins are old and are showing their age. Many of the IK models are old too, but they've held up better, I think.
I think it's because Waves exaggerates the "character" of what they're modeling, so there's a lot more secret sauce in their plugins, and it's that sauce that's way past its sell by date. So a lot of Waves plugins sound lo-fi compared to their contemporaries.
The one Waves plugin I can endorse is the new SSL EV2.
Most Waves plugins are old and are showing their age. Many of the IK models are old too, but they've held up better, I think.
I think it's because Waves exaggerates the "character" of what they're modeling, so there's a lot more secret sauce in their plugins, and it's that sauce that's way past its sell by date. So a lot of Waves plugins sound lo-fi compared to their contemporaries.
The one Waves plugin I can endorse is the new SSL EV2.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRAF
- 44168 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Look into Waves WUP before buying any of their plugins. It can get seriously expensive.
They had some of the very best plugins at one time but a lot of different companies are making great plugins today. Maybe focus on what you need and then shop around.
They had some of the very best plugins at one time but a lot of different companies are making great plugins today. Maybe focus on what you need and then shop around.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
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- KVRist
- 205 posts since 8 Dec, 2006 from Germany
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Stay away from anything Waves.
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- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
well, horizon has more stuff in it than diamond - but diamond has plenty for mixing purposes and contains most of the waves hits except for the CLA and Kramer stuff. given the price of diamond for the next 48hrs or so at dealers, that makes more sense as you could easily fill in the few extras you might want by buying singles at sale prices and claiming freebies.
that said, the WUP on diamond will almost certainly be more than what you pay for it new. so, consider if and when you might want or need to do that. (then again, the rate at which they are knocking out these sales, you might as well buy the bundle again new instead of WUping an existing one – and then only doing it after a few years).
that said, the WUP on diamond will almost certainly be more than what you pay for it new. so, consider if and when you might want or need to do that. (then again, the rate at which they are knocking out these sales, you might as well buy the bundle again new instead of WUping an existing one – and then only doing it after a few years).
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- KVRAF
- 2513 posts since 24 Jul, 2017
+1
There are plenty of alternatives.
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- KVRist
- 120 posts since 7 Nov, 2021
I still use plugins of Waves Horizon and especially like the old Renaissance plugins, RBass, RVox...and use these plugins in
every mix for many years.
A lot of plugins are simple with 1,2 or 3 knobs or sliders only, great for a fast workflow and pretty effective imo, but do not use Waves only, there are great other devs, too, of course.
I have made a video about Horizon using plugins on different instruments and 2Bus.
If 83 plugins are too many, you can also get Renaissance bundle or Abbey Road or CLA or API bundle etc. afaik.
every mix for many years.
A lot of plugins are simple with 1,2 or 3 knobs or sliders only, great for a fast workflow and pretty effective imo, but do not use Waves only, there are great other devs, too, of course.
I have made a video about Horizon using plugins on different instruments and 2Bus.
If 83 plugins are too many, you can also get Renaissance bundle or Abbey Road or CLA or API bundle etc. afaik.
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- KVRAF
- 8042 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Mercury + Abbey Roads + Inspiring Instruments + Studio Classics
From time to time WUP for 160 bucks when on sale via Everplugin.
All new releases will be added without further costs.
That's the best deal.
You don't need a lot more.
From time to time WUP for 160 bucks when on sale via Everplugin.
All new releases will be added without further costs.
That's the best deal.
You don't need a lot more.
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRAF
- 8042 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
PS: Studio Classics is not too important.
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRAF
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
I also use some Waves plugins for many years and do not need every new released plugin. Cool video btw.Plugintester wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:13 pm I still use plugins of Waves Horizon and especially like the old Renaissance plugins, RBass, RVox...and use these plugins in
every mix for many years.
A lot of plugins are simple with 1,2 or 3 knobs or sliders only, great for a fast workflow and pretty effective imo, but do not use Waves only, there are great other devs, too, of course.
I have made a video about Horizon using plugins on different instruments and 2Bus.
If 83 plugins are too many, you can also get Renaissance bundle or Abbey Road or CLA or API bundle etc. afaik.
I do not understand the discussions about Waves WUP, though. Do you have to update? Don't old versions also run on current windows or mac versions?