Adobe Audition questions.

[original flipper]

HI

Time to move on from Wavelab Lite as It lacks the features that I need - I have been looking around at audio Editors and Adobe looks very good on a price per features basis - what I really need is to be able to organize a number of tracks for burning to CD, beyond this I also need to be able to play around with Wav files - editing/chopping/crossfading and making loops and stuff - does Adobe do both these tasks?

I have the Demo but no DAW (at the moment) - only a weedy little internet PC that can not handle it!

Flipper.

[original flipper]

HI

No one use this?

Flipper.

[Voidoid Surrealist]

I just upgraded to Audition 1.5, and I'm quit happy with it. I say, go for it.

[original flipper]

HI

Lovely - but can it do the things I am looking to use it for?

Flipper.

[pHz]

HI
Lovely - but can it do the things I am looking to use it for?
Flipper.

and more ...

... TBH the CD burning is in its infancy but the multitrack mixing is great (just export the mix to burn in another app) and its wave editing functions are pretty good too

slainte rob

[original flipper]

HI

Unfortunately its the arranging tracks into a play order and burning that is most important to me.

Flipper.

[pHz]

HI
Unfortunately its the arranging tracks into a play order and burning that is most important to me.
Flipper.

arranging tracks into play order (with gaps / crossfades as desired) it is VERY good at ...

... all i meant was the CD burning side is new to audition so lacks a few advanced features but it does its job well enough (the entire run of K-v-R : southport CDs was burnt here using audition)

slainte rob

[headquest]

HI
... what I really need is to be able to organize a number of tracks for burning to CD, beyond this I also need to be able to play around with Wav files - editing/chopping/crossfading and making loops and stuff - does Adobe do both these tasks?

I have the Demo but no DAW (at the moment) - only a weedy little internet PC that can not handle it!

Flipper.

Hi there Flipper!

Audition is superb imho... although the CD burning is quite basic (e.g. you can't do detailed PQ points).

Editing, chopping corssfading etc are no problem, and I think you will be surprised by just how good the looping is...

Basically in Multitrack view you get 128 audio tracks into which you can paint loops, which automatically stretch to the tempo (as in Acid or Sonar's "Groove Clips"... but actually better than either of these ... because unlike Acid you can paint different loops into the same track... and there are deeper editing features than in Sonar.)

Audio recording directly into AUdition is a breeze - the easiest I have seen since I found Tracktion. But truly professional at the same time. I have recorded audio in Tracktion, Cubase SX1, Sonar 3 (demo), Live 2, but Audition has produced the best results for me. I think this partly has to do with the quality of effects and the way I've taken to the mixer, which is excellent. If it matters to you, you can also Freeze effects (this is called "locking" a track in Audition-speak).

Need any more advice, give us a shout!

[original flipper]

HI

Thanks for that - I think this is the way to go then!

A damm site cheaper than Wavelab and Sonic Foundary as well!

Flipper.

[AD80]

I Audition!!!

[original flipper]

HI

I am that you do, I hope to partake in that happiness - very shortly.

Flipper.

[AD80]

I can almost guarantee that you will.

[Hink]

I'm sorry Flipper I missed this thread, I got 1.5, that with FL for me is a very powerful combination. As far as audio work goes, Audition makes it fun, everything is pretty well thought out except no asio yet.

I really like the noise reduction, the pitch corrector and the recent vst support. For the price it packs a lot, including 5.1 surround. I was looking at the new Sonar 4, there isn't that much it can do that my three way combo of AA/FL/Vsampler3 can't do. Atleast not enough to spend more.

There are some cool tricks for recording that allow you to basically do an auto punch without using auto punch (which it has) the allow mutiple takes and the loop record for audio means you hit record once and it lays out a different track with each take. I use a paper with a numbered grid and each take I screw up I cross out, the ones that are iffy I leave alone and good ones I circle (sometimes I make a note like a stanza number and circle it meaning that part is really good). I just leave myself enough preroll time. It also means if you have a vocal booth you can hit loop record, go in the booth with a good mic and not fear fan noise and such. But you will have one blank take (the time it takes you to get in the booth)...now I just need a booth..

[headquest]

I'm sorry Flipper I missed this thread, I got 1.5, that with FL for me is a very powerful combination. As far as audio work goes, Audition makes it fun, everything is pretty well thought out except no asio yet.

Strangely I hadn't actually spotted that (no latency problems on multitrack audio projects I have done in Audition 1.5 )

Anyway, i checked it out in a book I have - Audio Editing with Adobe Audition - in which the author Richard Riley writes:

"ASIO is a specification created by Steinberg that defines the interface manufacturers of soundcards must use to allow software access to all input and output devices on a card. It was developed in an attempt to enable (as far as possible) real time monitoring of audio when using a PC soundcard. However Adobe Audition does not route digital audio through the software itself, rather it simply "listens" to audio appearing at the inputs of the soundcard; therefore it does not require the use of ASIO drivers.

I'm not sure that totally makes sense to me - perhaps you could explain it in layman's terms. But I am assuming from the comment that Audition - for whatever reason - does not and will never need ASIO?

[2legged]

From many of the comments here, Audition sounds really good. It sounds like it might be exactly what I've been looking for.

A little over 4 years ago I jumped on board with this whole business of using computers to create and record music. I started out by using Acid (for loops & quick arrangements) and Cubasis, which grew into using Cubase. But then along came Sonar and all of it's Acid loop compatibilities as well as all the great MIDI functions that it has so I made the switch.
Now even though I really like most of what Sonar can do, I still miss the direct access of VST instruments in Cubase and it's mixer layout. I know, Sonar 3 kinda ripped off Cubase and came up with a much better mixer layout. But still, I really don't like using that damned VST to DX adapter in Sonar.
I won't say that one is better than the other but they both seem to lack one thing or another for the way I like to work.

Audition sounds like it might be perfect for me. So I have just 3 questions for you Audition users:

1. How does the audio sound in Audition? Is it comparable to say...Pro Tools, Nuendo, Cubase, Sonar or Logic?
I use a Delta 410 soundcard and my monitors are Tannoy Reveal Actives and I can hear differences in the overall sound of the audio from different programs. For example, there's a noticeable difference in the overall quality of the audio of something like Acid (which I still love and use) next to something like Cubase or Sonar.

2. How is the MIDI in Audition?
No one in this thread has talked much about the MIDI in Audition.

3. How well does Audition work with ReWire?
The idea of possibly having the perfect program for me along with ReWire support for something like Kontakt or Reason sounds like a dream come true.

Thanks in advance for your answers and comments.