Hello all - long time lurker and I finally joined the team. I'm trying to figure out how this effect was done (the trainish rhythm delay effect). Tempo is around 97 and I believe it's just a kick and snare being soaked in delay and filtered... but I've yet to get close. I'm not really interested in using the effect in a song like it's done here, but I would love to figure it out just to maybe use elements in sound design (and I'm just curious) Thanks!
Can you help me with this delay effect...
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- KVRist
- 341 posts since 30 Nov, 2008
i could do that with my bass, iam not sure if it's a delay anyway.
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- KVRAF
- 5274 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
You could get that rhythmic effect with just some white noise and a regular old low pass filter. If you wanted to layer delay into it you should definitely be cutting the low frequency content of the delayed signal so you don't end up with just bass mush.
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- KVRAF
- 8749 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
Likely just a filtered delay. Only lightly Eq filtered in the delay feedback possibly with an LFO on the filtering Eq -certainly at the start there's a long slow LFO taking the filter up and down, but probably also heavily bass cut so it doesn't overpower everything. Sounds like the delay is panning around too, but that's not too difficult to do - even if your delays don't have that feature, you could apply a panner onto the delay return channel. The main trick in the Eq feedback filtering in that type of sound is to do it very subtly. It's possible they have a delay flanging slightly rather than Eq filtering - both can sound very similar. In fact when I think about it - flanger is maybe more likely as you can get those panning around too, which saves on complication. Most decent delays can do a delayed flanging effect and just LFOing the delay time gets that sort of effect too.
There's reverb in there too - not sure which way they did it. Could just be send reverb applied onto the delay return (you'd use the same reverb as for other instruments). Could be a modular delay that has reverb/delay as part of the whole FX (used to be a popular thing in 80s/90s on hw FX boxes - some digital mixers had those type of FX too). Or you can do that sort of thing with delays that have a density control - Valhalla immediately springs to mind - where it's half way between a delay and a reverb.
Something like Valhalla might well be the delay they used there - flanged/LFO delay time, long LFO over several bars and big density to get the reverby wash. If you play around with Valhalla phaser delay algorithm it can get flangey type sounds too.
There's reverb in there too - not sure which way they did it. Could just be send reverb applied onto the delay return (you'd use the same reverb as for other instruments). Could be a modular delay that has reverb/delay as part of the whole FX (used to be a popular thing in 80s/90s on hw FX boxes - some digital mixers had those type of FX too). Or you can do that sort of thing with delays that have a density control - Valhalla immediately springs to mind - where it's half way between a delay and a reverb.
Something like Valhalla might well be the delay they used there - flanged/LFO delay time, long LFO over several bars and big density to get the reverby wash. If you play around with Valhalla phaser delay algorithm it can get flangey type sounds too.