What morphing plugins are there and pros cons?
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- Banned
- 12 posts since 8 Apr, 2022
Looks like melda mmorph, zynaptiq morph, and ina grm has some morphing stuff. What else?
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- KVRAF
- 4554 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
Soundpaint has a morphing feature.
Pros: They are fun to play with and are sometimes useful; once in a while something cool comes out
Cons: Hard to predict the result; sometimes disappointing; not as significant to my music making process as I thought they would be; once in a while something cool comes out, but then I realize later a vocoder would have gotten me there just fine.
Worth the price? Not sure, but I don't regret having the Zynaptiq and Melda (got in bundle) ones.
Pros: They are fun to play with and are sometimes useful; once in a while something cool comes out
Cons: Hard to predict the result; sometimes disappointing; not as significant to my music making process as I thought they would be; once in a while something cool comes out, but then I realize later a vocoder would have gotten me there just fine.
Worth the price? Not sure, but I don't regret having the Zynaptiq and Melda (got in bundle) ones.
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- KVRist
- 297 posts since 3 Dec, 2009 from Cologne, Germany
Mmorph is on sale ATM
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- Banned
- 475 posts since 22 Nov, 2015
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- KVRAF
- 4380 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
Beside Alchemy's morph with the spectral resynthesis, all these pseudo morphing plugins always sounded more like a weird messy vocoder than true spectral morphing to my ears.
There is of course Kyma, king of the morphing, but it is totally another kind of animal not related to the plugin/vst world.
There is of course Kyma, king of the morphing, but it is totally another kind of animal not related to the plugin/vst world.
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- KVRian
- 1078 posts since 28 May, 2003 from world
Not a morphing plugin but free, CDP (https://www.unstablesound.net/cdp.html) has some morphing options that are usable imo. If you use Renoise there is a tool which gives a gui for the commandline processes to offline render results (https://www.renoise.com/tools/cdp-interface) and I thing Reaper also has a graphical editor for it(?). It takes a while to set-up though depending on your OS, but if you like experimenting with sounddesign there's enough to find in the package.
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- KVRAF
- 37418 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Crossfading, not really morphing
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- Banned
- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
https://www.soundmorph.com/product/24/timeflux standalone but
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- Banned
- 475 posts since 22 Nov, 2015
Like mmorph?
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- KVRAF
- 37418 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
No I think the Melda one works like Zynapiq morph, using some sort of complex structural interpolation and resynthesis process (although we only have their word for it, not sure if it uses the same math as Zynaptiq are known for their research into and use of neural networks as part of the analysis and resynthesis process)
'Unlike simple cross-fading, which is just like having 2 faders one going down and the other going up, MMorph analyzes both input signals, one sent via the main input and the other via the side-chain, analyzes them both, finds important features and morphs them instead. Much like morphing a photo of one person into another.'
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MMorph
'Unlike simple cross-fading, which is just like having 2 faders one going down and the other going up, MMorph analyzes both input signals, one sent via the main input and the other via the side-chain, analyzes them both, finds important features and morphs them instead. Much like morphing a photo of one person into another.'
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MMorph
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- KVRAF
- 37418 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Another approach, and one I have used extensively, is NI Kore 2, which allows you to take presets from a plugin or even group of plugins and morph between them, again not using crossfading but in this case interpolation of automatable parameters
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- Banned
- 475 posts since 22 Nov, 2015
I think Ohmicide had something similar iirc. The ability to morph between presetsaMUSEd wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:39 am Another approach, and one I have used extensively, is NI Kore 2, which allows you to take presets from a plugin or even group of plugins and morph between them, again not using crossfading but in this case interpolation of automatable parameters
According to the blurb Transmutator can "Blend and fuse 2 audio signals in many creative ways, from spectral morphing to Noise/Tone merging."
That's what made me suggest it. Though tbh I can't compare it to the others so may well be completely different
Last edited by Havok on Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 3688 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
MMorph can do this and is also lots of fun to use; it could be that Transmutator uses similar technology.
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- KVRian
- 1488 posts since 7 Jan, 2004
Many years ago Kyma was the king of morphing. These days .. well, it still seems to be the only option for realistic sound morphing.
I've frequently checked for true alternatives for Kyma, but no, there isn't.
Too bad Kyma needs a dedicated hardware platform which is not for sale anymore.
We may see Google/Meta fill in the gap. That could mean sound morphing will become ubiqutous in society.
I've frequently checked for true alternatives for Kyma, but no, there isn't.
Too bad Kyma needs a dedicated hardware platform which is not for sale anymore.
We may see Google/Meta fill in the gap. That could mean sound morphing will become ubiqutous in society.
The more I hang around at KVR the less music I make.