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Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Sat May 21, 2022 3:17 pm

What do you think of this version of the TR 909 emulation?

It has a mono output, if you want to plug it into a mixer, it's possible to take a mono cable with two split cables, this way I can plug in L and R into the mixer and have a stereo rendering out of the mixer.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Sat May 21, 2022 8:37 pm

I didn't realise it only had mono rather than stereo out. Seems a bit of an oversight to me - I can't imagine the majority buying it will be using large mixers (to use the individual outs fully). Which means lots of individual takes - though I suppose I'd have to do that anyway, same as lots of others I guess. I haven't bought it yet - priority goes to synths, but I think I still want one. I have lots of nostalgia for the 909 and loved using it back in the day, but TBH a drum machine is a bit of a superfluous like-to-have rather than a must have nowadays. I'll be buying the remaining small Behringers (Cat, K2) before I get the RD9, and if they ever bring out the Proton I'll get that too.

But every demo I've seen and heard of the TD9, I've liked. Same old 909 but with better bits on it. In a way I'm pleased the nearest shop that stocks it is 200km away because I know that if I laid hands on it and had a play...I'd have to buy it.

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sat May 21, 2022 9:14 pm

You'd need to include panning for each sound to justify stereo out. Changes the layout, etc.

I have the RD8 and the RD9.. and the 9 is way more fun for me. Just set up a couple bouncy sequences and have fun for a while.

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Sat May 21, 2022 9:37 pm

Thanks a lot for your answers.

Indeed a great success from Behringer this RD 9.

When you talk about panning, I don't quite understand.

If I go out with a mono cable and enter a mixer in mono, playing with the pan, will I have a stereo effect at the output of my mixer and I will hear it in stereo on my speakers?

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sat May 21, 2022 11:03 pm

I was just responding to the missing stereo output. The entire 'infrastructure' of the unit is mono... so having stereo output would only be useful if you designed some kind of panning (or fx) system inside the RD9.

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Sun May 22, 2022 5:44 am

Thank you for your reply.

Do you speak in a daw?

I would like if possible to recover the mono RD9 output and recover in stereo at the output of my mixer.

Impossible to do?

Do I absolutely have to go through a daw for that?

db3 · Post by **db3** » Sun May 22, 2022 10:49 am

If you split the mono output, the kit will still be in mono. You need to connect the individual outs into a mixer or audio interface so you can control the pan of each sound to produce a stereo kit.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun May 22, 2022 10:58 am

What use would be a stereo output on such a drum machine? You'd just have the sum of the drum machine's different percussion sounds, and that would go ("pre-panned") into the mixer. Much better, as has been stated, to have the different mono outputs to go into the mixer, and then pan them how you want to.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Sun May 22, 2022 11:23 am

I definitely see the advantages of a stereo out, but only if you can pan the individual sounds on the drum machine. I used to occasionally record a full panned drum set in one go, though I'd also record the kick separately as that was far more likely to need Eq or processing. And I'm not sure how many RD9 buyers are going to be using mixers...could be wrong but I'd imagine most would record the whole thing into a 2-input unit (apart from live use). Dunno, maybe I'm way off track...the fact they kept individual outputs maybe means Behringer think they'll mostly be live and/or going through mixers? Just that...I'm an old dinosaur and even I gave up mixers years ago.

Behringer RD9