Arturia

Pasaje · Post by **Pasaje** » Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:07 am

Do we have any word from Arturia regarding Clap support?

Would be great to have the V collection supporting polyphonic modulators.

Rumors welcomed

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:54 pm

Yes, I want it!
But looking how much time it needs to get even MPE support on all their synths, I have little hope… And without per voice modulation like in MPE, it doesn’t add so much…

iowastate89 · Post by **iowastate89** » Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:31 am

+1

They have so many synths, I hope they build around a common engine making it easy to port

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:42 pm

That would be a total waste of resources.
Arturia plugins are already supported by 100% of DAWs on the market in one plugin format or another.

mabian · Post by **mabian** » Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:24 pm

jamcat wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:42 pm That would be a total waste of resources.
Arturia plugins are already supported by 100% of DAWs on the market in one plugin format or another.

Thanks for your opinion, very useful for the purpose of this thread... tell the devs when Steinberg will wake up one day and decide VST3 is dead and VST4 is the only way to go... Jeez.

- Mario

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:34 pm

mabian wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:24 pm
jamcat wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:42 pm That would be a total waste of resources.
Arturia plugins are already supported by 100% of DAWs on the market in one plugin format or another.
Thanks for your opinion, very useful for the purpose of this thread... tell the devs when Steinberg will wake up one day and decide VST3 is dead and VST4 is the only way to go... Jeez.

- Mario

In that case, they will need to support VST4. But CLAP support will still be irrelevant.

A better argument would be to suggest that one day Bitwig will drop support for all formats except for CLAP.

Do you think that will happen?

mabian · Post by **mabian** » Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:39 pm

The intent here is to reverse the scenario, with clap as mainstream standard being open source and not owned by a company, while vst becomes something you need to implement just to support Steinberg hosts. I know, I am being visionary. But this would be the right thing imho.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:42 pm

Visionary, no. Zealotry, yes.

Arturia's interest here is going to be maximizing their resources, not promoting your activism.

In other words, Arturia is going to be more concerned with advancing their own interests, not u-he's.

mabian · Post by **mabian** » Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:13 pm

jamcat wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:42 pm Visionary, no. Zealotry, yes.

Arturia's interest here is going to be maximizing their resources, not promoting your activism.

In other words, Arturia is going to be more concerned with advancing their own interests, not u-he's.

Clap has capabilities that vst3 does not have. Implementing it would make plugins more appealing for user of hosts that support these extra features. Sounds better? There are reasons on many levels for which clap adoption would be a win win situation.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:26 pm

It's not a win-win situation, because there is always an opportunity cost.

So the question is really whether more people benefit from Arturia making redundant versions of their existing plugins, or if more benefit from them delegating those man-hours to making new plugins. Also, which benefits Arturia more? Do they bring in more revenue by adding a superfluous plugin format to products they've already sold, or do they earn more by releasing new products for people to buy?

This is really a 1% vs. 99% question, and whether Arturia should be working for free for the 1% who use Bitwig, or for everyone else who wants to buy new synth models.

Those "extra features" in CLAP are extremely niche and do not exist in the vintage synths that Arturia models. I have never once needed them, or even given them any thought, and I suspect 99% of Arturia users haven't either.

mabian · Post by **mabian** » Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:57 pm

You're right. I'm wrong. You win. I quit.

We'll see in a few years anyway.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:37 pm

In a few years, who knows?

One day there may very well be an industry-wide CLAP infrastructure, and a real incentive to support it. But as it stands today, neither exist.

Pasaje · Post by **Pasaje** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:28 pm

We are here asking if they have any new information since their announcement. Arturia has already publicized their support for CLAP. Unless you are an employee at the management level at Arturia all you are doing here is roleplay. You may enjoy playing make-believe but only they know their own direction and decision process as a business. Do you have access to their accounting sheets? their KPI metrics? are you part of their internal politics?

Why are you answering for them?

I'm going to assume you are a consumer of DAW's and plugin software products. Consumer have always and will always benefit from open standards. Open standards are the foundation that made possible the internet you are currently using to argue against something that's good for consumers. The consumer group that you belong to. Good job.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:24 am

Pasaje wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:28 pm Arturia has already publicized their support for CLAP.

There is not a single Arturia product that currently supports CLAP. They haven't even made a public statement regarding CLAP support.

wltchris101 · Post by **wltchris101** » Wed Sep 07, 2022 5:30 pm

Might I suggest if you want Arturia to support CLAP you send them a support request stating this - it's what I did. They gave the generic "Thanks for your suggestion, it has been passed on to the relevant department" yada yada...But if enough people make the suggestion it's more likely to happen no?